No, I am pleased to say that I never heard that poem...The only ones I heard were positive, and they were bad enough. As for using it in a public talk?
That would be awful!
I shal watch this thread to see if it turns up
BluesBrother
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Anyone have a copy of that JW poem about a child who doesn't survive Armageddon?
by Bleep Bloop ini think it was called "a mother's thoughts.
" it was a rather dreadful poem written from the viewpoint of a mom a few weeks after armageddon, reminiscing about her child that didn't survive.
in one part, the rebellious kid says, "i can take care of myself in snow, sleet or rain.
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That's all there ever was to being a Jehovah's Witness
by Terry injehovah's witnesses weren't jehovah's witnesses until 1931.until that year the people who had been hard-headed followers of end times false prophecies by william miller and seventh day adventists, more or less settled into following charisma-ballyhoo preaching by folks like "pastor" c.t.
russell.what was it that attracts these people?
it is a thin veneer of pious bible interpretation as a means of prepping for the end of the world.yep.
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"Unsophisticated / under-educated people want to feel smart; feel superior. Knowing God's Plan is a trump card in that desire."
I guess that was me as a young man. It sure feels good to believe you knowthe secrets of tbe Universe. .. We knew more than the top scientists, the great thinkers , what a privilege!
We used to watch the wildlife documentaries and feel so superior when it said that creatures evolved. When people spoke of the next 30 or 40 years , we'ld chuckle because the world would never last that long....
Oh well.........
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How Are JWs Affected By The Coronavirus?
by minimus inwill meetings and conventions be canceled?
the ministry?
shepherding calls, get togethers?
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JWs coping?
The ones I know are scared and have decided to stay away until it is over.... But of course others are not so practical. I know die hards who will carry on regardless.
At least the dub website has given sensible advice....
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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BluesBrother
UK infection now running at 87 cases, we saw the biggest daily increase yet. The media are all over it. You can’t buy hand sanitizer for love nor money.
People I know are worried. I know dubs who don’t want to go to the Hall until it is over
local hospital has an emergency “pod” for you to go to if you have symptoms...don’t go in the main building....
some say it is a “sign of the times” !
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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Slightly off topic, but I see that the WTS has made a statement on the website ....
NEWS ALERT | Coronavirus Update and Response
As reported on by international organizations and the media, there has been an outbreak of the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19). The world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses is closely monitoring the situation and providing practical steps that we can take to protect ourselves and others. These proactive measures are based on Bible principles and the recommendations from medical professionals.—Proverbs 22:3.
Some may wonder how our brothers and sisters are doing in the affected areas. The outbreak of COVID-19 has significantly impacted the branch offices and congregations in Italy, Japan, South Korea, and other countries. In some cases, the branch office has had to cancel tours and visits from outside guests. In other cases, the government has restricted large public gatherings, which has required the branch to cancel circuit assemblies. Additionally, congregations have had to adjust arrangements for the ministry and congregation meetings in some areas. Despite these challenges, our brothers continue to build themselves up spiritually and encourage one another.—
..............We should also keep frequently touched surfaces clean in our home and at our Kingdom Hall. Additionally, medical experts discourage shaking hands in such situations,””
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The article promotes the advice given by the authorities and says that meetings and ministry may be cancelled if necessary
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Donating Blood a Disfellowshipping Offense?
by HiddenPimo inwhen i served as an elder i never heard of this scenario presenting itself - giving blood.. has anyone heard of a judicial case where a person donated and was disfellowshipped?
are there any references to this in the jw publications, manuals, handbooks?.
not so hiddenpimo :-).
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BluesBrother
A quick look tbrough the 2019 "Shepherding the Flock" book (online) showed that it only refers to receiving blood.
Hmmm. My opinion would be that if a JW did this and was unrepentant , then he would most lilely be considered to have disassociated himself. But I have been out of the loop for a number of years.
Like you, I never came accross such a case.
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March 2020 Broadcast - Hard Push to Baptism. Why?
by Smiles inthe jw broadcast for march 2020 is a hard push for more baptisms, where mark sanctamonious sanderson makes ready use of the phrase "baptised disciples of jesus" instead of their typical catch phrase "baptised servants of jehovah".
the "jesus message" is somewhat unusual rhetoric for jehovah's witnesses.
why the big push for more baptism?
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This puts tbe lie to the oft repeated line used by doorstep dubs...... " we are not here to convert you" , or " we are simply doing a Bible education work"
Mark Sanderson blew the lid on that. He bluntly said that placing literature was not the goal, conducting studies was not the goal. They want baptized converted JW s thats all.
The instruction was given to stop "unproductive studies" . Most dubs don't want to do that. .. Obviously it is better counting time by calling on a friendly person, having tea and biscuits by the fire, than going door to door and having mainly not-homes.
I don't know how significant the use of the theme " Disciples of Christ" was. It may be just that he was using the scripture in Mathew with that expression
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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Thanks for the useful link, Simon.
It does seem that outside of China the rate of fatalities is pretty low, but that does not stop people worrying . In the Uk the media is full of it ...
Stay safe people
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Today’s Watchtower Study (December ‘19 issue
by BluesBrother in“parents train your children to love jehovah “.
the title says it all really, but par 6 has this piece of advice.. “jesus likened our time to “the days of noah,” and there is no doubt that we are living in “critical times hard to deal with.” (matt.
24:37; 2 tim.
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“Parents Train Your Children To Love Jehovah “
The title says it all really, but par 6 has this piece of advice.
“Jesus likened our time to “the days of Noah,” and there is no doubt that we are living in “critical times hard to deal with.” (Matt. 24:37; 2 Tim. 3:1) With that reality in mind, some couples have concluded that they would like to postpone having children so that they can devote more time to sharing in the Christian ministry.“
That may sound a little odd , given that the main field for growth and baptism in the Western world is children growing up..... but still.
Now if one truly believes that “ the cities are [about to] crash in ruin” that may sound reasonable..... Who wants to be pregnant in Idlib today? But is that really the case?
Older ones may remember similar comments in the past when parenthood and even marriage was discouraged in the printed material. For example the book “Children “ . Oddly this was written as a dialogue between two single people in the WTS , John and Eunice and it concludes on this note...
”Our hope is that within a few years our marriage may be consummated and, by the Lord's grace, we shall have sweet children that will be an honor to the Lord. We can well defer our marriage until lasting peace comes to the earth. Now we must add nothing to our burdens, but be free and equipped to serve the Lord”
When I add that this was published in 1941 things gain a perspective.
79 years have passed, enough time to have brought up children and seen grandchildren even great grandchildren! .... and still this world system is with us.
Clearly the WTS is no guide in such fundamental lifestyle decisions, or the understanding of the scriptures.
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Words, phrases ,that do not appear in the Christian Greek Scriptures /New Testament that Jehovah`s Witnesses use.
by smiddy3 inwhere does one begin ?.
jehovah`s witnesses pride themselves as being a bible based religion ,that their beliefs and practices are all bible based ?.
words & phrases jehovah`s witnesses use or have used that are not in the bible.. organization.
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BluesBrother
Interesting post.....full time student .
In the spirit of the o/p :
"Teaching toolbox"
Theocratic career
"First ressurection"
"Second ressurection"
And from FTS's post "undeserveved kindness" . Does that substitute for "grace"?