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  JW Science Quote (1-22)

  by TD in

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  2. friends

  this week's installment in the science quotes of "celebrated jw scholars" concerns one of their perennial claims.

  based on a literal reading of genesis 1:30, jehovah's witnesses believe and teach that all animals were orginally designed to be vegetarians and that the restoration prophecies of isaiah foretell a return to this state.

  this has been stated many times in jw literature:.. .

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  BluesBrother

  When I was a little boy I told everyone that in the New World I was going to have a pet lion…. As I grew older I wondered about the literalness of that prophecy , even the WT sometimes said it could refer to people changing their personality, then another article made it literal.

  As an adult with more knowledge I quietly kept my own thoughts on that belief , while still a dub. I knew now the massive re-creation it would need to change an animal’s digestion and teeth to “ eat grass like a bull” . TD has masterfully explained that above.

  Now I know that it is all b/s anyway. This doctrine should indicate to any prospective Bible Student of the WTS that they all live in cloud cuckoo land!
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  Did they read this today at the meeting?

  by Jerryh in

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  BluesBrother

  We are discussing Study article 19, I am afraid the link given above was to next week’s study . As to their teaching on to whom the Revelation was directed, and who are the Slaves.. they now say ‘ we ‘ and ‘us’ as though it includes all the Other Sheep .

  The revised Revelation Book on line said “ The apostle John, who wrote down Revelation, describes himself as such a slave. He was the last surviving apostle and one of the select spirit-anointed group of “slaves” that inherit immortal life in the heavens.”

  So they have changed it, So what? They do flip flops and tweaks to teaching all the time . I doubt that anybody up the K/hall noticed.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  BluesBrother

  You have to feel for those men.. banged up for 25 years, in a horrible place.- for doing nothing. Your question about Cornelius is a good one. I only know what the WT said..

  Sept 1st WT 1986

  ”Some may ask, ‘What of Cornelius, the centurion, and Sergius Paulus, the army-backed proconsul in Cyprus? Were not these men associated with the military?’ Yes, at the time they accepted the Christian message. The Scriptures, though, do not tell us what Cornelius and others did after their conversion. No doubt Sergius Paulus, who was an intelligent man and “astounded at the teaching of Jehovah,” would soon scrutinize his secular position in the light of his newfound faith and make a proper decision. Cornelius would have done likewise. (Acts 10:1, 2, 44-48; 13:7, 12) There is no record that the disciples told them what action they must take. They could see that from their own study of God’s Word.​“
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  Randall Watters our old friend

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  does anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?

  he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.

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  BluesBrother

  That link to Randy’s story, on the previous page , is a good worthwhile read. It gives a great insight to life in Bethel in the ,70s.... we used to quite regularly have posters who had a background in Bethel but we don’t hear it now.
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  Erotic cringey convention drama

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
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  check out this convention drama, starting at 21:38 ... david breaths and describes what he sees as bathsheba takes a bath 😅 then they get together and keep weirdly quoting song of solomon in a twisted way... and he keeps calling her sister and later on even "little sister" 😳 just wacko:.

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-btbnfknidg&feature=youtu.be.

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  BluesBrother

  This is an old one….. I don’t remember that although I was there at the convention in 1973.

  I agree , it does sound a bit creepy. David here slavering at the body of Bathsheba.

  Long forgotten by the dubs.
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  2022-07-01--Additional Contribution Box!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower wants more money!.

  https://we.tl/t-jyt0susog5.

  atlantis!.

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  BluesBrother

  Wow! What a “privilege “……
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  Climate propaganda

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gotta love jwdotorg as usual regurgitating the financially/politically motivated (and thoroughly disproved) climate change propaganda:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/more-topics/ruining-the-earth-bible-meaning-hope/.

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  BluesBrother

  The notion that Climate Change is either unproven or discredited “propaganda “ is itself an untrue statement that regurgitates the American Right political propaganda .

  Climate change is real, it is happening. Ask those who live in tha Arctic or The Australian continent. To some extent we can all feel it . Only those with vested interests would remain in a state of denial.

  NB, I know I am rising to a piece of click bait, intended to cause an argument, but I could not resist.
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  The resurrected will not get a change of clothes in the New System

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2022.

  20 what an exciting time the thousand year reign will be!

  it will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth.

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  BluesBrother

  “that ominous looking cylindrical metal thing “

  If we are looking at the same thing, I reckon it is a display cabinet for mags and brochures, with a Perspex top. - all produced by Holy Spirit, of course.

  If these people are from different cultures and time periods there’s a lot they have to learn before the intricacies of the march of world powers from Daniel’s prophecy. I am thinking, how to use a flush toilet, what to do with toilet paper, how to use a knife and fork and a load of stuff we take for granted.

  Once you have lost the rose tinted specs and THINK , the earthly resurrection gets ludicrous. That is sad , having believed it most of my life
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  UK Contaminated Blood Scandal

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  up to 30,000 people contracted hiv and hepatitis c in the 1970s and 80s after being given blood treatments or transfusions on the nhs.. thousands have since died.. it just goes to show there is no such thing as a sure thing.. the wts may be wrong about their blood doctrine, and their bible interpretation to justify it, and how they enforced the rules about it, but ultimately may be correct in claiming that "bloodless surgery" was a safer option medically.. canada also had a contaminated blood scandal, where 30,000 were infected with hepatitis c and hiv.. in other news, paying for blood from high-risk donors is a bad idea.

  who knew?

  well apparently the people behind the schemes did, and that's why they covered it up.. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61929986.

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  BluesBrother

  I am sure that bloodless surgery is a safer option where possible and if it is available I would opt for it. However, most of the British victims of this scandal are Haemophiliacs who received a blood fraction Factor 8 or 9.

  This would be acceptable to JWs as not one of the “big four “ components Therefore their policy on blood would not protect them
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  ALL babies are "little enemies of God"...

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  straight from the horse's gb's mouth - from the 2022 convention broadcast.. it's at the 38 min.

  30 secs.

  point of the jw broadcast: https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2022convention/pub-co-r22_1_video.

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  BluesBrother

  In the context of his prior comments and knowing the JW doctrine as I do, I can just about get what he means…… but that is a shocking choice of words and a horrible expression. Quite enough to alienate all the Mums and Dads in the audience…