have the rules changed as far as disfellowshipping inactive ones when it's clear they are engaged in "wrongdoing?".
i have a cousin in seattle who was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago or so and then went through the process of being reinstated (took only 6 months) and then proceeded to fade and do nothing regarding the jw's .
fast forward to today and now she's had a baby out of wedlock and the uber jw elder father and mother are all on board somehow.
According to the original post, the woman had faded some years ago and not doing anything about the Witnesses. As I recall, the congregation are under no requirement to seek her out and disfellowship her. If they knew about her they would likely ignore it.
It is not favouritism, it is the way the system works. As for the family, I agree that some would decide to shun her but they are not obligated to. These people seem more loving and practical than some Witnesses are.
does anyone ever wonder the good they could have done instead of giving a public talk for 45 or 30 minutes?
i remember giving my first public talk aged 18 and even then i was thinking ' this is just me making up half truths trying to blind people with jw propaganda'.
fast forward 15 years to when i gave my final public talk and i was so close to seeding the 30 minutes with ideas that could possibly wake people up but i never had the guts.. in that 30 minutes i could have done so much real good for a person instead of spreading this awful religions dogma.
30 minutes? That is for sissies!
When I gave my first Public Talks they were 55 minutes, and the audience had to endure them! Actually I did my best to keep it interesting but some of the outlines were , well you know…..
They changed to 45 minutes for a number of years. By the time they changed to 30 minutes I was leaving. I remember saying to my wife that that I would not have been prepared to drive several miles to give a talk that short . It is hardly worth it, but they do , don’t they.
I could never have done it if I did not believe what I was saying. I really did….
did you know, (said with a michael caine voice) that many of the uk's pedestrian crossing consoles - upon which you find the button to press in order to cross - actually have a concealed button which is located underneath the console and out of sight!.
when the 'green man' lights up, the hidden button then rotates, letting people who are blind and deaf have a physical alert to know that it's now safe to cross the road..
Yes, a blind man showed me.....years ago
for the lucid lurkers: # 37. the article's examples really show, that among the 'name people' only 50 % of rank and file, and none of the leaders can be trusted all the time.
but, shut up and put up.. eli and hannah, eli's sons committed gross sins, raping/ seducing woman visitors to the temple, for years, yet naive worshippers are to trust their brothers, even with their children ?
inaction by wt approved?
The article states the headline “ You CAN Trust the Brothers “ but then gives a whole lot of examples where brothers could not be trusted.
If someone has been hurt by a fellow believer, the article acknowledges that this happens and just says that it happened in Bible times too….. Not very encouraging.
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Like others, I was raised within So never had Christmas and don’t miss it. I don’t really want to do it. It all looks very silly, wearing paper hats and pulling crackers at the dinner table. I don’t like that kind of food anyway. I guess you could call me Scrooge , but there is little about it that appeals to me.
I have thought, that if I had done it, I would do it pretty low key. If I had a church then It would be a religious thing in my household. Midnight carols , Morning Service home to some kind of lunch and an agreement to give only small or handmade gifts . But that is fanciful with a family that view “ Christendom “ as the worst thing on earth !
i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].
my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".
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“ My question is 'Is there any proof anywhere in history where Jewish or Christian people lived their life according to the Scriptures?"
Uncountable numbers of people have endeavoured to live their lives according to Scriptures. I would cite the family of Jesus who made the sacrifices, observed the festivals etc of the Jewish scriptures. I can’t imagine Joseph being unscrupulous in his dealings with others . In the early Christian world a lot met their death in the arena rather than violate their beliefs .
Today millions of Christian people believe they are living the right way , the trouble is the application of Bible principles. e.g. A JW would not vote or stand for office because he must be “ no part of the world “ . However , a Mormon may tell you that it is Christian duty to do so , for the good of the community.
here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .
1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.
2. no going to home coming football games.
There were several points in the lists that were not the case around here( UK) at least not in my experience and I am sure that some parents were stricter than others .
Britain has just had it’s November 5th firework and bonfire night. As a kid I really wanted to have a part in that but as dubs , we didn’t… I can recall sitting in the back bedroom watching the neighbours kids having fun with fireworks .. Even now, I still feel I’ld like to do it or go to a big organised display…..
i was wondering if some who may have been in the judgement seat ( so to speak ) had a wake-up call while judging someone who was defending leaving jw.
( or maybe it was from reading a letter of disassociation.
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No, the cases that I was involved with never involved apostasy or doctrinal issues. I dealt my share of adulterers, fornicaters, smokers and at least one gambler, but nothing that required me to defend my faith.
Most cases were confessed by the wrongdoer and many were repentant and not d/f’d.
admittedly it 90% crap over there but still they are up to 80k in subscribers.
over here it's the same half dozen or so that posts something, including myself.
why is that?.
I rely on this board to keep me grounded , surrounded as I am in life by WT diehards, it is all too easy to start thinking some of their nonsense…..
Reddit has always seemed superficial, lacking depth and I have never enjoyed reading it.
Riley’s comments were unfair.. We are not all like that. Many of us have been here for years and try to be reasonable. I usually avoid political, and Covid threads …. Let them get on with it.
I thank Simon for keeping this board going, it is still a source of useful information about the WTS . You just have to look harder for it.
the comments underneath the article are almost as interesting as the article.. .
https://mercatornet.com/secrecy-confession-england-wales/81615/.
“The Jehovah’s Witnesses, also mentioned by the Inquiry, have now a policy under which their elders are instructed to report to the police credible instances of sexual abuse even if reporting is not mandatory under local laws (while they may still rely on the confessional privilege, where such privilege was protected by the laws, when sued for old cases that happened before the new policy was instituted).”
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Are they right on this? As far as I know elders will only report when there is a legal requirement to do so…Although I believe there may an allowance to report if a child is considered to be in further danger …
Anyway , any comparison between a JW confession and a Catholic one is false . It is nothing like that.
