Posts by BluesBrother

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New School for overseers.

by Hellothere in

saw new video watchtower put out.

they gonna open new school for overseers.

they gonna train this men too be "loving, wise and accept they don't know everything".

BluesBrother

I could not find this on the website, only a Lloyd Evans rebuttal of it. So I guess it was made for internal showing. However, taking comments at face value….

In a short course you cannot train a person to be loving if he does not think that way. Neither can you inject wisdom into someone who wants only to follow rules . Wisdom is the application of knowledge to any given circumstance and that takes a good heart , experience and being willing to read between the lines.

They have precious few men like that.

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Rutherford and dinosaurs

by jhine in

sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

i've never come across this before is it true ?

BluesBrother

Sounds crazy to us, but they could only read from the science of their time, and be quick to pick up the more extreme ideas….. This is Wikipedia:

” Until the mid-20th century, the surface environment of Venus was believed to be similar to Earth, hence it was widely believed that Venus could harbor life. In 1870, the British astronomer Richard A. Proctor said the existence of life on Venus was impossible near its equator,but possible near its poles. ”

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Celebrity Dub list grows longer

by Nathan Natas in

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http://www.vogue.co.uk/vogue_daily/story/story.asp?stid=14388

campbell's god mother .

valerie campbell has admitted that she is a devout jehovah's witness.

BluesBrother

I have heard , from an elder in that locality, that Naomi Campbell was brought up as a Witness and her mother still is.

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

BluesBrother

Good to hear from you Blondie…

Mercy killing a la Dr Kavorkian is not the same as a “ do not resuscitate “ order . The one hastens death to put you out of pain and misery, the other just allows things to take their course rather than artificially keeping you alive.

I guess it was the latter that the WT was talking about rather than hastening things. However, at the end of life it is between you and God, isn’t it. If you were in a desperate situation I don’t think you would stop to ask The Society.

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Who raised Jesus from the dead?

by Blotty in

i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.

BluesBrother

As has been said, arguments have gone on for 2000 years , and in the end you believe what you want.

For me, one of the few things the WTS have got right is the nature of Jesus and the falsehood of the trinity. There are two different beings, God and Jesus.

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The Gospel According to Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

mark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.

the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.

the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).

BluesBrother

That quote in the o/p just about nailed it . Quite right.

Why didn’t we see it like that when we were in? Actually I did have worries about the morality of Armageddon, but I smothered them and pushed them to the back of my mind. I guess I was not ready to face it then.

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Can the World Cup Really Unite People? - What Does the Bible Say?

by Festus in

seriously....this is an article on jw.borg.. really?

football - or soccer - and bible?.

these guys have really lost the plot.. i can promise you that bible does not say a flying flaming about world cup.. however, as much as people want them to, these events cannot provide lasting unity.

BluesBrother

That made me laugh.. My wife complains about the blanket coverage of the World Cup. We turn to JW.Org and , Eek! It is even here...!

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Watchtower Study : Jehovah Is Helping You To Succeed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | january 2023. study article 3. jehovah is helping you to succeed.

how jehovah makes you successful.

13. does jehovah intervene in every situation we face?

BluesBrother

Peaceful Pete made a good comment on the previous page. To read this you would think that dubs are totally heartless,and we know that is not so.

I recall once that a severely emotional sister had been recently housed in a tower block that scared her and gave her thoughts of jumping from the balcony. Another Witness family took her in for a bit until she was allocated a ground floor flat . That one was a wreck so lots of lads in the cong were co opted to decorate, which we deed with good grace.

Now that only happened because one elder was caring enough to organise it . The trouble in the .Org. Is that there is no organised provision for physical care . There should be an elder position specifically for it . There is not because those at the top do not take it seriously.

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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

by Fisherman in

i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

BluesBrother

The scriptures are fine , and the basic scriptural truths about God , Jesus and his return are found in most religions. It is the special understanding of things that the WT has , that is illogical.

Christ is supposed to have returned invisibly in 1914., that is 108 years ago! For me the time lapse is no longer credible, seeing that Jesus said “ this generation “ . The attempt to explain this by overlapping generations, still being that generation, are pure invention.

I could go on , with their u turns and abandoned beliefs , all presented as divine revelation but I am sure others will do so

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Watchtower Study : Jehovah Is Helping You To Succeed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | january 2023. study article 3. jehovah is helping you to succeed.

how jehovah makes you successful.

13. does jehovah intervene in every situation we face?

BluesBrother

I have known more than one Witness who claimed to have lived their life in constant prayer to God and saw his hand in every little thing . When little things went wrong it was “what is Jehovah teaching me here? “ . However most of us were not like that.

So why do some seem to get a lot of help from their congregation and others not ?

I believe it is down to personality and, the more you give ,the more you receive, like in any community. Sisters that were always involved, always willing to help and being interested in others will receive help from their many friends. Those of us more of a quiet nature , keeping to ourselves… well , no one notices if we are not there and are less minded to put themselves out for us. That’s human nature.

A Christian congregation is supposed to be better than that , offering a hand to all members regardless… but , you know how it is…..