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  Death Notices

  by geevee in

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  2. beliefs

  i am wondering if this happens in your area.

  recently two dubs have died in our region.

  they were older people and have been jw's for many years and supposedly they have had many years of dub service.

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  geevee

  Hi all,
  
  I am wondering if this happens in your area.
  
  Recently two Dubs have died in our region. They were older people and have been JW's for many years and supposedly they have had many years of dub service. They should be well respected members of the JW community with the possiblity of many friends.
  
  YET... apart from the immediate family, there are NO death notices in the paper. Nothing, absolutley zip. No JW's have even tried the silent witness by placing a notice in for their dear friend and saying Jehovah or new system or ressurection.......
  
  I am not aware of any directive in any form saying dubs shouldn't do this.
  
  Does it happen in your area? Is anybody aware of why it does/doesnt happen?
  
  thanks
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  So, You Want To Be An Elder?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm writing this in the spirit of full disclosure and honesty.

  if you really want to be an elder, you should get the whole story and honestly.

  weigh how it may affect your life.

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  Metatron, I love the way you have stripped this subject down to bare bones, open and honest. I also love the feedback from everyone else. Having been there and done that, I can only agree and wish that I had wised up a long time ago.
  I tried and tried to do my best, shielding the poor innocents from what I thought were over eager elders, only to have it blow up in your face.
  I refused an assignment, they said in this open forum we can be honest and nominate for the position, I nominated, but then an "old boy" said he wanted an older elder on the job, so that was me out. They then had a more menial job that needed to be done, perhaps I could do that? I said NO I AM NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT....
  You know what happened after that? We had at that meeting the "Circuit Assembly" overseer, he decides who gives talks at conventions......
  Just one experience stating the same. Not to mention late nights, consumning petty problems [that Satan....he's saying dont blame me, I had nothing to do with it!!] Politics, Team playing, and on and on.
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  Pre wedding talk

  by loosie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok the comment undercover made on another thread brought this to mind.

  what is a pre-wedding "counsel talk"?.

  i eloped so i never had one.. can anyone here tell me what is said in this "talk"?

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  There are a couple of letters from the society and some watchtower articles that are supposed to be discussed with the couple before they can get married in the KHall if the local body give them their approval. These letters cover heaps of stuff regarding the arrangements like size of the gathering, music, speeches, bands, alcohol etc. Also the amount/type of expressions of affections shown.......whether they have, you know....done it.....how far they have gone......all these things.
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  Book : Angels and Women

  by geevee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i was listening to a testimonial from jw info line.

  that of paul hess.

  he spoke about this book angels and women.

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  geevee

  Thanks for the replies
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  Book : Angels and Women

  by geevee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, i was listening to a testimonial from jw info line.

  that of paul hess.

  he spoke about this book angels and women.

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  Hi, I was listening to a testimonial from JW Info Line. That of Paul Hess. He spoke about this book Angels and Women. Endorsed by Russell and Rutherford, but apparently written by a spirit medium who had the story transmitted by a "fallen angel". They endorsed the book in the Golden age.
  Has anybody read the book or know much about it? You may have discussed it previously, but the search thing didnt come up with much. I have included some info from a web page that has the book in revised format.
  
  Angels and Women [http://www.premier1.net/~raines/review.html]
  
  Angels and Women is, supposedly, an automatic writing ["Automatic writing" refers to writing that is done "automatically" under the control or direction of a spirit or spirits] book recommended by the Watchtower Society in 1924. It is a revision of a novel written in 1878 titled Seola by J. Gregory Smith.[1] Seola was revised and published as Angels and Women by a Bible Student who was identified as being "a personal friend of Pastor Russell [ The book is revised and published by a personal friend of Pastor Russell, and one who was close to him in his work. It is published by the A. B. Abac Company, New York city] and one who was close to him in his work." [2] This revisor said the woman who wrote it was "impelled to write it after listening to beautiful music." [3] He believed the spirit that "dictated" the novel to Mrs. Smith was not one of the "holy angels" (of the kind that supposedly transmitted information and Biblical interpretations into J. F. Rutherford's mind), [4] but was one of the fallen angels who desired to return to God's organization. [5]
  
  The Society at the time believed that some demons or fallen angels were honest and could be saved and return to God's organization. [6] Angels and Women, they believed, was channeled or "dictated" to the author by one such fallen angel who was honest and told the truth about pre-flood conditions on earth. They said he shed some "light" on the subject. They therefore claimed to receive new "light" from a demon according to their published statements. This is unusual as all the automatic or channeled writings I have researched claimed to be from good spirits whether angels, extraterrestrials, or highly evolved spirits. The Society appears to be unique in claiming to receive new light from an evil spirit or fallen angel.
  
  The July 30, 1924 Golden Age the Watchtower Society reviewed the book Angels and Women.
  
  
  Thanks for your help in advance, GeeVee
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  DID YOU EVER KNOCK ON AN UNUSUAL PLACE?

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  eg.white house/buckingham palace?

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  geevee

  When I was younger a friend and I called at this old house where 5 girls were sitting on the front porch. As I presented the magazines they were all giggling, my friend wasnt sure why and either was I, but as fearless as ever I proceeded. Some months later I found out that it was an illegal brothel. I felt like a right fool. Too innocent. Next time we did the territory we went there again..... but different tenants.....dern!!
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  My own Brother writes.....

  by geevee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just receieved this this morning.

  initially i was seething.

  but now i think that the best reply is no reply.

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  Wow, thank you all for the input and understanding, wouldn't it be great if I could send him the link to this page....[probably wont though!!] We are only one of many thousands upon thousands who have to deal with this, and at the same time admitting that at one stage would have done the same to someone else, was blind but now I see.. I will hold off on the reply, at least for a while. There has been so many good ideas that could go into a reply, on the page as well as some private meesages. If I do reply I will post it at the bottom of this page. Thank you all again for your kind support
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons in Major Turf Wars!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jwd is [not] responsible for other pictures found at web site!

  http://www.meltingclocktimes.com/turfwars.htm breaking news!

  friday, december 3, 2004!.

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  geevee

  Is this for real? Once we had to compete with the Salvation Army. They had trumpets, and were going into houses as we were. In the end I stopped our group and we headed for the coffee shop...no that's right, we all went on RV's.....
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  My own Brother writes.....

  by geevee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just receieved this this morning.

  initially i was seething.

  but now i think that the best reply is no reply.

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  Hey thank you all for the support. I wonder how he will feel, when one day it dawns on him that the "promises" he is awaiting [and he will get to be a prince too] are just hot air?
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  My own Brother writes.....

  by geevee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just receieved this this morning.

  initially i was seething.

  but now i think that the best reply is no reply.

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  geevee

  Thanks for the support. I also am not disfellowshipped, or even disasscoiated. Just stopped going. Amazingly enough we actually worked together and he sat there every day and didnt say a word, even though he would have known that we had stopped going. He can be very unreasonable. I will think about composing a letter, but i wont hurry. Family.........