As I mentioned in a previous post, I had a visit from two elders. The other day after not attending for a year and a half. As the conversation progressed, one pulled out a tract and offered it to me. I said I already have one. Then after the real reason for the visit came out, he started going on about how bad things are getting in the world, and that people are starting to get concerned about religion and where the muslim/christian thing is headed....on and on, so I cut him short and said that i have to go. The message is the same as it always has been. He believes it with the same vigor as he did 50 years ago and is still selling it the same. It is bad for them, but they just cant stop...and yes it HAS made them blind!!
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Theocratic Pornography
by mann377 injust some thoughs after reading the past wt's and reviewing the last assembly with a friend.
it still amazes me how the wtbs gets away with the absolute foolishness of their beliefs.
the only plausible explaination that i could come up with is that it is like porn (spritural nudity) such that the dubs are now addicted to.
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geevee
About the foreplay thing, what would really work is, how about we skip the meeting this morning [on a sunday] and stay in bed !!!
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geevee
Remember, we really only have Joseph's word for it that he ran..... Mrs Potiphar still seemed like she had been done by him. Maybe she had, and he had to change his story before the elders who were interogating him!
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What do You Think? How much Time do we have Left?
by geevee inso, i havent been posting much of late, i found that i have needed to have a little mental break from the whole fading/falling away thing.
please dont take it personal.
i would like to hope that one day i/we will be able to fully stand on my own, and then truly help others.
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geevee
Hi all, Thanks for the words of encouragement and advice. Have to get my head back in the game, but I take your point garybuss. They have as much power as I give them, which is going to be none. Someone told me when it comes to the crunch you could stretch the truth a little, and force them to reveal their information, they would have to try to prove you were lying, but then you start playing their game and giving them power. Good point too Mary. Thansk everyone......again.....
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What do You Think? How much Time do we have Left?
by geevee inso, i havent been posting much of late, i found that i have needed to have a little mental break from the whole fading/falling away thing.
please dont take it personal.
i would like to hope that one day i/we will be able to fully stand on my own, and then truly help others.
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Thanks for the input AK_Jeff. We already get around on our elbows and knees, so a lower profile would mean that we have to die!!!! ;-))
Yes, I agree, a fishing expedition. Can they stand to let us walk away without any action? I did grate the WT guy when I was an elder!! I think that we maybe done for! -
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What do You Think? How much Time do we have Left?
by geevee inso, i havent been posting much of late, i found that i have needed to have a little mental break from the whole fading/falling away thing.
please dont take it personal.
i would like to hope that one day i/we will be able to fully stand on my own, and then truly help others.
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Hi Bubble, yes I realize that differnt congs and elder bodies do things differently, but I am hoping to determine by the experience of others who have been there and done that to see what we can expect?
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What do You Think? How much Time do we have Left?
by geevee inso, i havent been posting much of late, i found that i have needed to have a little mental break from the whole fading/falling away thing.
please dont take it personal.
i would like to hope that one day i/we will be able to fully stand on my own, and then truly help others.
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geevee
So, I havent been posting much of late, I found that I have needed to have a little mental break from the whole fading/falling away thing. Sorry about that. Please dont take it personal. I would like to hope that one day I/We will be able to fully stand on my own, and then truly help others. My Point: We have a post box for our mail at the post office, and I was just heading out to check our mail when out of the corner of my eye I noticed a car pulling up out front of our home. I regonize it straight away, one of the "elders"! Infact it was two of them. One was the PO when we were "in" and the other was the WT conductor I think. I stopped my car and walked over to them. Kept them talking right at the kerb. Didnt invite them in. [Why should the wife and children suffer too!!] They just called in to see how we are. They expressed some concern that we may be feeling neglected! [Well it is nearly 1.5 years since we stepped foot in that KH people] So we made some very light chat for a time, about life and being busy blah blah blah. Rivetting stuff. One pulled out the new tract and asked if we have one, Yes I say, my son took one and then tore it to pieces when we weren't home. The WT guy says they did want to clarify two things. 1) They have heard something about a birthday celebration? I shook my head. I said that whether we did or didnt it is no one elses business, and if he got his bible he wouldnt be able to find the scripture that directly says you can't. 2) People are saying that we are free of the witnesses? To which I replied that you can never be free of it!! So I ask, where do people come up with this stuff? I haven't seen anybody, or talked to anybody for a long time? So he ducks fro cover and doesn't want to identify any particular source and says well people talk you know, nobody that we know though! I tell them that I am happy the way things are at the moment. I dont feel that we are neglected. They are welcome to call in every now and then. I dont want to change anything as my inlaws are getting on and they will need us in the not distant future to look after them and it will be difficult if we are "out". So, my question, how much time do you think we have before they DF or attempt to DF us? These two are obviously the investigative duo of a Judicial trio! It will give us enough time to compose a very brief DA letter and then we will be truly free!!! Thanks in advance, love to all.
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Luke 23:43 the NWT
by Ade inluke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.
nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.
now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.
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Yes, the comma is a smoke screen, employed by hobbyist bible translators [whoever they maybe] to sound like they know what they are talking about. As the evildoer was not a follower of Jesus, there would be no need for christ to talk to him in JW speak. No coded promises, just striaght forward. How would the evildoer who turned to the light side have understood jesus' words? Oh he means that I will be in paradise on earth while he will be in heaven, obviously?!!!! No, i think he would have understood that they would be in each others actual presence in Paradise, which could have only been in one place...that's where Jesus was heading. IMO
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JW video e-mail File
by seek2find inthere is a e-mail that is circulating in jw e-mail groups that is very disturbing, at least it is to me.
i was wondering if any here have seen it and what your thoughts are.
it's called thewholeworld3mb.wmv i don't know how to upload it so it can be seen or i would do so.
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Nothing would surprise me with this. Just watched it on youtube.........what a load of BS. Some dub who thinks he is gaining a few armageddon points, and lotsa dubs would pass on a link to their friends thinking they are doing a wonderful thing. More hypocisy, that's all. At least the follow up suggestions on youtube are not that complimentary!!
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HELP INFORM MEDIA OF BREAKING NEWS (possible shredding of pedophile files)
by southw infriends, i do not know how to get a copy of this to cnn and there are numerous papers around the world; so, if the following seems good to you yourselves, then please email or mail copies of it in to your local newspapers around the world:.
hot news tip.
i wish to direct your attention to messages posted on http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/122674/1.ashx and http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/122529/6.ashx discussing newsbreaking criminal obstruction activities (shredding of court ordered documents) or the grave potential for such by religious leaders among the interstate (hence federal matter) watchtower bible & tract society (jehovahs witnesses) organization.
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Out of interest, does anyone know if there have been new directive regarding the note taking at these JC hearings? Used to be that anyone on the JC could take notes, but the secretary of the JC would collect them at the end and seal them in an envelope with the name of the person involved and the names of the JC and the date. Has this changed?