Posts by geevee

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Sound Booth 2010-11 DC Recordings!

by yknot in

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geevee

Quick question... Is there really a new elders almanac? Is it vailable anywhere yet? Thanks

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jehovah provides versus action provides

by Aussie Oz in

funny how ones perspective on a given type of event can change.... over the years, while still a jw, we would find ourselves in a bit of financial strife and somehow we would get through it.

''jehovah'' always provided some relief, some unexpected windfall or extra work etc.. oh what proof of the holy spirit at work!.

fast forward to now, when i am so far removed from ''jehovah'' as one could be and guess what?

some of my Q's

by antes8080 in

jw
friends

they say every person in the org was pick by jehova so thats that mean that the kids that leave the truth are not?.?.?.

i dont get that i ask couple elders and they don't have a answear.... if everybody is pick by jehova why preach.?.?.

?.

geevee

Don't be too logical.... elders, co's all hate these kind if questions... keep up the good work!

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For those still in- why do you (really) stay, and what would it take for you to leave the org?

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

for the so-called conscious class, those of you who know it's all a disgusting lie, what is the real reason you stay in?

i find it hard to understand how ones who know what the org truly is would continue to be an active jw.

i'm not talking about the "faders"- those with an actual plan to get out as painlessly as possible.

geevee

I only hope that your families love you as much as you love them... Someone said they love theri family "unconditionally" which is noble, and how a lot of people are.

But... are you accorded the same respect? Does your JW family love you unconditionally? I wonder. Some may say they do, but the reality may prove to be different.

In the end, ones' happiness has to come from within. If I can be happy on my own, with myself then I don't really need their approval. I am happy to share time with them and love them, but I don't need them to return it to me.

My wife and I were going to do the slow fade, until the book study conductor said that the people [who were on TV in relation to a story about pedophile activity within the ranks of JW's] were liars and apostates! It was more than I could swallow, he wanted me to confirm his statement and I could not in all good conscience, so I picked up my books and walked. I stated that they were victims and that the borg has hurt them.

We have never been back. How many of my "friends" rang to see how we were? People I had grown up with... "0" zero, none. My friends, people who I cared about... "Unconditional", what a joke.

Why would I want to pretend that I support that? Please be careful where you place your loyalty is all I am saying.

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Oz Govt following UK & French lead on Tax/Charity status

by Mattieu in

just another update on 1 australian senators quest to squash the tax free status of scientology/jw's and other cults:.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/call-for-independent-charities-commission-20100912-1570g.html.

now the election is over, hopefully wont take too long for legislation to pass.

geevee

Rutherford was right, "religion is a snare and a racket".

Including his! Especially his!

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Oz Govt following UK & French lead on Tax/Charity status

by Mattieu in

just another update on 1 australian senators quest to squash the tax free status of scientology/jw's and other cults:.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/call-for-independent-charities-commission-20100912-1570g.html.

now the election is over, hopefully wont take too long for legislation to pass.

geevee

Big problem there debator... how much does god take for himself?

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Oz Govt following UK & French lead on Tax/Charity status

by Mattieu in

just another update on 1 australian senators quest to squash the tax free status of scientology/jw's and other cults:.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/call-for-independent-charities-commission-20100912-1570g.html.

now the election is over, hopefully wont take too long for legislation to pass.

geevee

A while ago someone got a copy of the WT 2005 company tax statement in Australia. $16 million donated and it listed $1500 as being disposed of in "charitable" works! We all know how much money they give in this way.

Even some little old lady down to her last penny is first sent back to beg from her family before she is helped out, and then it will usually be by an individual and not the cong! No one gets their hands on that cash!

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Youths and Young Adults Missing in my Congregation

by ruruj in

there were a handful of youths in my congregation.

all were vibrant and zealous members.

some conducted bible studies, some were dedicated and quite enthusiastic in the "truth".. .

geevee

In your teens you question and challenge the "boundries". They chose not to live that way. Cheers to them I say. I wish that I had challenged and questioned way more in my youth then got the f#@* out of there instead of wasting my "youth" on them!

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"Rutherford, a prominent member of the Governing Body" (David Splane, 2010 DC)

by pirata in

in david splane's talk, "remain in the secret place of the most high", at the 2010 district convention he referred to "rutherford, a prominent member of the governing body".. while technically correct (the governing body is a technical term for a board of directors), the term "governing body" currently has a spiritual meaning, seperate from "board of directors", in the eyes of jws: the representatives of the faithful and discreet slave who make the decisions on spiritual matters.

my understanding is that the "board of directors" handle other business/legal operations (since the 80s re-org).. please correct my if i am wrong, but retroactively applying the modern-day understanding of the term "governing body" to the board of directors in the rutherford/knorr era suggests that the board of directors had equal input on spiritual matters.

my understanding though is that the president/vice-president made the majority of decisions on spiritual matters during that time.. does anyone know of any quotes or references from watchtower material that states who actually made the spiritual decisions during the rutherford/knorr era?.

geevee

Triple it!

WE should be careful when talking about any members of "the Board" of directors for any period of time and not refer to them as a "body". Thereby using wt language which serves to confuse the issue.

Remember that the "governing body" is not mentioned in the bible, only in wt stuff.

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A gem of hypocrasy from 1887 Watchtower

by Aussie Oz in

came accross this piece from the 1887 watchtower tonight.... have a read... you can see russell criticising the protestants for how they are not allowed to teach anything that is not sanctioned by the church.. sounds mighty familier...and can be mirrored right back at the wt.. watchtower 1887. .

page 923 april 1887 (caps and italics russells and the wt).

nor should we ignore the assistance of any of god's children in seeking an understanding of the scriptures, but we should give attention to them only so far and so long, as they teach and explain the bible, in harmony with the bible.

geevee

Hey Oz.... how you goin? Good find, there used to be a web site called "quotes" and he used to have another CD with lots of older wt books and stuff on it. It might be around somewhere?

All good here.

geevee