My wife and I have left due to this issue. It has been a challenging position to be in as we all know. I thank people like Barbara and Bill and those who assisted them in getting this ionfo out there when they did, at a huge personal cost to themselves.
Most r&F jw's do not know how these cases are handled and just "trust" the the elders know exactly what to do, and that they handle these situations properly...as God himself would.
There are many who have left because of the publicity. How can you support their policies by contimuing to attend when you know that it is wrong. Does God's righteous standards change?
If the answer is no, then whgy would he allow his so called representatives on earth to make such a huge stuff up as this.
Glad to be free. Thanks again.
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May 28--Four years since Dateline's JW sex abuse program aired. Results?
by AndersonsInfo insunday, may 28, 2006, is the fourth anniversary from when a threshold was crossed into uncharted waters.
on may 28, 2002, the u.s. television news program, dateline, publicized to millions of viewers the facts about watchtower's deceitful child abuse policies which protect pedophiles who target and molest jws' vulnerable children.
subsequently, this subject caught the interest of media throughout the world who, through careful investigation, substantiated the allegations made on dateline.
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Need Some Advice Please
by lovelylil inas you know i have been posting for a while now and i want to say i am really enjoying it.
i love everyone here!
i have noticed many great minds out there and i am in need of some advice, i am looking for some ideas on how to handle a situation.. i left the wt with my family about two years ago now.
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She needs to read C o C, and see that it was all BS and then get a life.
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who stole my witnessing bag?
by jazza82 in.
daily i look near and far for my witnessing bag, but to no avail.. .
no more witnessing for me.
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Mine went into a 2 yard square skip bin along with the books...all of them.
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Elder removed proceedure?
by Synergy inwhen an elder gets removed or steps down, does he have to turn in his private elders book or can he keep it as a souvenier?
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I had lent my book to another guy who had just become a new elder. So when I "stepped" down, it wasn't in my posession. But, I had downloaded a word version of the book, so I borrowed my book back and copied every note that I had as well as any changes in "procedure" and terminology. So I dont have my actual book, but do have it in word doc.
Someone said It aint right to keep it...who said it aint right? Lots of ex elders keep theirs. It is the one book I wish that I had kept. Any one got one spare?
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Special seating for children at an assembly
by Bonnie_Clyde inas i was reading an article in a 1941 wt about the 15,000 children from ages 5 to 18 sitting in a special section at the assembly in st. louis, i had a sudden flash of memory.
there was a more recent assembly where they asked the children to sit in a special section because they were directing a talk at the young people.
more i think of it, it might have when when they were releasing the "young people ask" book, and that was in 1989. if that was the year, my son was age 15. i tried to get him to move to that section and he refused.
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They made the children to about aged 18 sit in a special section for the release of the "Your Youth, How to get the Best out of It" c1976
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Reexamine
by geevee ini have been trying to get into www.reexamine.org and cant seem to get the main page to load.
i got to the quotes page, but that was all.
has the mighty wts bought him down?
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Hi all,
I have been trying to get into www.reexamine.org and cant seem to get the main page to load. Anyone know why? I got to the quotes page, but that was all. Has the mighty WTS bought him down? -
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Lying Elder???
by Confucious inthis is a bizarre thread.
but i was talking to an elder and he was asking me if i've sinned.
but we are all unclean.
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A recent survey stated: "95% of men masturbate, the other 5% are liars".....!!!!!
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When and What was your "Spiritual" height?
by Dune inthe highest i ever got was my being considered for a ministerial servant back in fall'ish 2004. .
of course, i also started college that semester, and was given an ultimatum and now i'm here .
but anyway, when and what was your pinnacle height in the organization?
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I was an elder, had been the service overseer, school overseer, then secretary, used to be a hospital visitation elder and got to go once a year to the bi-annual HLC meetings. Got to be a session chairman at the district convention and circuit assembly, assistant to the assistant on attendants too......
BIG DEAL it is all BS. These "positions" are just garbage and only serve to show how mind locked I was. Even then I never got to do anything major, like serve on appeal committees or give actual talks at conventions etc.
Dont forget, when you "reach out" for this stuff, you are only trying to win popularity votes, if those who decide like you....you fit the mold more perfectly than someone else, you get their vote and in/up you go. It is absolutley nothing to do with "spirituality". Maybe only religiosity.
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One of the long term effects of growing up a JW...
by Pwned infor me anyways.. i still have nightmares about demon attacks.
that was the one belief that really had a grip on me growing up.
i was terrified of demons and even thought i was being attacked one night for bringing home a toy with a pagan symbol (ying-yang) on it.
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Hi, yes I used to have dreams about demon attack. Lasted for a long time, I was always trying to yell out "Jehovah" to ward the attack off. Then one night in a dream attack, I managed to get it yelled out, and that was the end of those dreams!!! Corney isn't it?
Now I wished I had have tried to reason with the dream demon and find out all about everything!!
Oh well, mental conditioning affects/ed us all on various levels.
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Dreaming
by geevee inhi all, well this is an odd one, but lately, my wife and i and our youngest son have been having dreams that we are at the meetings, but when we are there, it doesn't feel right, we know that we dont want/or shouldn't be there.
people are fussing over us, but all we want to do is get out of there.
other times, we are giving talks and so forth.
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Hi all, well this is an odd one, but lately, my wife and I and our youngest son have been having dreams that we are at the meetings, but when we are there, it doesn't feel right, we know that we dont want/or shouldn't be there. People are fussing over us, but all we want to do is get out of there.
Other times, we are giving talks and so forth. Haven't been door to door in any dreams though!! That's got to be a good thing. I know it's weird. I guess when something used to control all your life for most of your life, it is still in the sub conscious, trying to work it away.
Any one else have dreams like this? Maybe we need deep psychological purging. Am/have read Hassans books.