Posts by sammielee24

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

According to the facts so far presented - by the audio transcriptions - the whole incident took less than 90 seconds.

According to the facts so far presented by the hospital report - the officer had injuries to his head - allegedly from an assault/engagement with the suspect/assailant.

Again - the incident took less than 90 seconds.

According to the facts so far presented - the suspect/assailant had an accomplice who provided much of the initial testimony to the news/law/legal teams.

In summary - if taking all these facts into account - the incident happened very quickly, there were two suspects the officer was trying to contain, a physical altercation results in injuries to the head of the officer. The issue of proclaiming the suspects as unarmed came afterward - at this point there is no proof or facts that have been offered wherein the officer had knowledge that his assailant was unarmed.

It could very well be that the officer fearing for his own life after the assault, believed the suspects to be armed and a danger to the public.

We have heard little since the beginning from the other suspect who is still alive, so we have to remember that one officer in the midst of a 90 second assault with one suspect, may have felt vulnerable to an assault with or without a weapon from the other suspect.

These are things the Grand Jury will have heard - I'm sure we will know soon whether or not this becomes a public court case. sw

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

The audio of the calls was released under law - the calls aren't alleged, those are the calls brought into evidence of what transpired.

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Audio recordings the Post-Dispatch obtained of police and EMS radio calls before Brown was shot include Wilson asking whether he was needed to help respond to what the dispatcher called “stealing in progress” from a convenience store. The recordings also capture Wilson requesting backup after hearing the description of the convenience store suspect and encountering Brown and a friend walking nearby, and the police response to Brown’s shooting.

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

an alleged call was made to the police reporting that MB stole some items using force

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Alleged? A 911 call was made - see police records/dispatch records including additional 4 minute timeframe in which more detail on the appearance of the person committing the crime was given. Video of the crime has also been collected.

"At 11:53 a.m., a dispatcher reported a “stealing in progress” at the Ferguson Market. The 911 operator was still talking to the caller in the background. In a second broadcast, 19 seconds later, the dispatcher says the suspect is a black male in a white T-shirt running toward QuikTrip, and had stolen a box of Swisher cigars.

About four minutes later, there’s more detail: the suspect is wearing a red Cardinals hat, a white T-shirt, yellow socks and khaki shorts, and is accompanied by another man."

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

The defense has not clearly disclosed if the officer that killed MB had knowledge of the report.

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The call that this officer took regarding the theft was made public - it is quite clear he had knowledge of the crime prior to the incident. Not sure what more 'disclosure' you want to confirm the officer was on the job and heard the report.

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At 11:29 a.m. on Aug. 9, a dispatcher asked Wilson to help other officers search for a man who had reportedly threatened to kill a woman. At 11:47 a.m., Wilson said he would respond to a call for a 2-month-old with breathing problems. Wilson drove his police SUV from the west side of West Florissant Avenue to Glenark Drive, east of Canfield Drive and Copper Creek Court, where the fatal encounter would soon occur.

At 11:53 a.m., a dispatcher reported a “stealing in progress” at the Ferguson Market. The 911 operator was still talking to the caller in the background. In a second broadcast, 19 seconds later, the dispatcher says the suspect is a black male in a white T-shirt running toward QuikTrip, and had stolen a box of Swisher cigars.

About four minutes later, there’s more detail: the suspect is wearing a red Cardinals hat, a white T-shirt, yellow socks and khaki shorts, and is accompanied by another man.

At noon, Wilson reports that he’s back in service from the sick-baby call. He then asks the officers searching for the thieves – units 25 and 22 – if they need him. Seven seconds later, an unidentified officer broadcasts that the suspects had disappeared.

At 12:02 p.m., Wilson says, “21. Put me on Canfield with two. And send me another car.” His call triggered at least two officers to head his way, including one who said he was close to Wilson.

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

No matter what race, an 18 year old is a young man, a lad, a boy

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Legally in the State of Missouri - an 18 year old is a man. Not a boy. Not a lad. a man. Michael Brown was a man - a very large man. That man committed a crime just moments before his interaction with the police. He was on video stealing from a store and assaulting someone in the store. That man had a physical altercation with a police officer just seconds before his death. When speaking of possibilites as to what a person was thinking prior to the incident or intent - equal consideration must be given, not just to the cop - but to the heightened aggression, state of mind and physical state that the criminal might have been in. Having been confrontational just minutes before the incident, how confrontational was the criminal acting just minutes after? These are answers that one assumes have been discussed and will be deciding factors in the results. sw

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

Do you have an 18 year old child?

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To a parent - their child is a child no matter the age.

To a stranger - an 18 year old man is just a man.

Both MB and Wilson are strangers to me. MB was 18 years old, 6'4 and 300 pounds. He was a very large man. sw

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

sammielee24

the cop DID kill an unarmed 18 year old boy

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The officer shot and killed an 18 year old man.

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Ferguson Shooting (Is my thinking on this all wrong.......)

by out4good3 in

i think everyone here can agree that walking down the street, even in the middle of the street, is not cause for having a clip emptied in your ass......... i can understand how the black community would be outraged by the injustice of seeing another black man dead in the street at the hands of the police under mysterious circumstances....... i hope that i'm not succumbing to the attempts to assinate the already well impuned character of the dead man...... however.

i can't help but think that this could all have been avoided by exercising the proper discretion with fore-knowledge of the disadvantages people of color have when they are dealing with law enforcement in the united states.

it is not as if this disadvantage has only since recently came to light.

sammielee24

There are always excuses why people don't vote and in the western world, that's all they are is excuses. If people want to vote, they will. If anyone wants to keep using the excuse that being poor stops you voting, then you become entwined in that excuse. Ditto cultural, environmental excuses etc. We all know people who are apathetic. I know people who have never voted in their life and never will - the majority of those have no faith in the political system nor faith in any leadership actually caring more about them and their lives, than they do the selfish quest for power and money. I find it's apathy - given the chance more people would rather sit and watch television, go have a beer or hang out than they care about casting a vote. If you believe your vote doesn't count, that you don't matter in the bigger scheme of things, and that the players are bought and the game rigged - you certainly begin to feel like you have been part of a problem and not a solution. sw

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Terminally Ill Woman Choosing To Die Completes Bucket list

by Bangalore in

terminally ill woman choosing to die completes bucket list.. .

http://nypost.com/2014/10/28/terminally-ill-woman-who-has-chosen-to-die-completes-her-bucket-list/.

bangalore.

sammielee24

I agree cofty.

sw

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Terminally Ill Woman Choosing To Die Completes Bucket list

by Bangalore in

terminally ill woman choosing to die completes bucket list.. .

http://nypost.com/2014/10/28/terminally-ill-woman-who-has-chosen-to-die-completes-her-bucket-list/.

bangalore.

sammielee24

I applaud this young woman - she is taking her story public and bringing light to a serious issue.

She has had to move to a State that allows her to choose the conditions under which she will end her suffering. Is it really a choice to end her life? Her brain tumor is doing that quickly for her - she simply wants to eliminate the descent into a painful, disabled, confused state where she no longer functions. I watched her in an interview and anyone that thinks this is her family exploiting her is wrong. She wants to die with her husband beside her, with the family there, in her home, in her bed, surrounded by the music she loves - maybe a window open to feel the breeze or the soft purring of a pet cat resting on her lap. She is losing her memory now and sometimes she can't remember who her husband is - she is in a lot of pain - her brain tumor isn't giving her a choice - it's killing her. The choice she is making is in the conditions surrounding her demise. sw