i have been df for a nummber of years now and have recently been doing research via the web for the past few weeks.
mostly because my new husband has been also doing his own research because i have been saying for years i want to go back, but never have and he had questions about the religion that he didnt understand.
the only time i ever go to the hall is for the memorial.
My heart goes out to you Tez. I can feel the sorrow in the way you wrote your post. Make a pact with yourself to take a month to just study and learn about the WTBTS. It will change your life for the better, I promise. I've been exactly where you are right now, you know. It's a very tough place to be but you can educate your way out of it. Look forward to hearing more from you. Hang in there.
GBL
hello all, i've been reading your site for a couple of years now, and have found, for the most part, it to be very helpful.
i must say, at first i was very "scared" at what i might find, but contrary to what i grew up learning, there is a "wealth" of information outside of the watchtower organization.
i haven't attended meetings for about two years now, and like many i've read about, have spent many hours researching, telling myself "i'm not wrong for searching", and doing more research.
:Using all of my scholarly brain power
I can't stop laughing. I'm convinced scholar is an apostate in disguise. I wager that nobody on this board is as successful in turning doubting witnesses to the real truth as scholar pretendus. Keep up the good work.
GBL
okay, first off, let me get this straight...you guys are all witnesses, some all active, some do things all the way right, some don't do things all the way right?
some are by the book but not preachy, and some are witnesses that are rogue and do things their own way?
i just want to know before i post any doubts or concerns or anything because even though i know we're supposed to stay away from places like this on the internet, i don't want what i say somehow getting back to my congregation somehow and next thing you know 4 elders come busting through the door waving "no blood" cards and shouting "freeze, jehovah's witnesses!
I totally know where you are coming from dude. I tried to be the guy in the Watchtower articles, you know the ideal witness braindead lacky, cleaning toilets and spending all my free time door knocking. I turned down lots of normie chicks when I was a witness too.
I'll just cut to the chase with you man: its all bullshit. Totally, unequivically, undeniably bullshit. Stick around here, do your research on the WTBTS, and get on with your life dating those hot waitresses.
GBL
i publicly said the pledge of allegiance with my right hand over my heart.
the irony of it all is it happened during vacation bible school this week in my church's sanctuary.
it felt good.
Good for you Honesty! I personally can't wait to start voting. Even though there's problems.. still a hell of a lot to be proud of.
GBL
i hate to say this, as there may be some here that fit this description, but people deep into jesus with all that saved talk and accepting jesus talk, look the same as the person trying to get me to take a hit on the bong.
these people seem stoned hard core and in la-la land of some fantasy and wonder why others don't want to ride the crazy train with them.
personally, i find these people to be almost alien to me, in that they seem so into their religion of "save" and "accept" this, that there is no reasoning or even discussing a different subject with them.
I totally agree with you. They are annoying but virtually harmless, unlike the wits. The born again Christian tends to live and graze in moderate/warm climates. They believe that God is going to send everyone who doesnt accept Jesus into their hearts to eternal hell. Their cognitive dissonance is comparable to the JW's.
GBL
man i spent two and a half hours chatting with a dub friend of mine about how messed up the wtbts is.
i explained to him that i'm agnostic too.
it was soo frustrating, he just couldn't get it.
Steve2: He's my friend because he's a decent person and I've known him for quite a while. He frustrate's me because of the cognitive dissonance. Also I use the term "friend" lightly.. its not like we hang out and go for wings anymore if you know what I'm sayin'.
GBL
in major league baseball a 0.300 batting average is worth millions of dollars each year to the skilled hitter.
in other words, it's very good.. what about the society's batting average when it comes to date predictions?
we all know they didn't bat a thousand -- but hey, aren't we being too hard on them on their misses?
0.000
GBL
man i spent two and a half hours chatting with a dub friend of mine about how messed up the wtbts is.
i explained to him that i'm agnostic too.
it was soo frustrating, he just couldn't get it.
What was the scariest was at one point in the conversation he just stopped talking. Just stopped. Then when I asked him a question for the third time he just replied, in total monotone, " I don't think I'm going to be able to hang out with you ever again." I was just chatting with him and I could see the stone Watchtower gaze come over his eyes. He viewed me as a blood-soaked apostate. He initiated the religion conversation and when it became apparent he couldnt answer any questions he fell back to apostacy. What the hell man.
GBL
i just got back home from dropping my wife off at the convention this morning.
i took the day off of work so i could celebrate the occasion of freedom from mass-delusional-cult-think-programming.
out on the porch, sun shinning, birds chirping, scotch in one hand, demon haunted world in the other.. as i was driving my wife to the convention grounds, she thanked me for all the help i had provided her in getting ready for the convention, and for driving her.
I was in the Riverside Cong. I think they are more militant about badge checking in Calgary because of the whole Betheny Hughes incident. There was a bomb scare evacuation at a convention here three years ago.
GBL
okay, first off, let me get this straight...you guys are all witnesses, some all active, some do things all the way right, some don't do things all the way right?
some are by the book but not preachy, and some are witnesses that are rogue and do things their own way?
i just want to know before i post any doubts or concerns or anything because even though i know we're supposed to stay away from places like this on the internet, i don't want what i say somehow getting back to my congregation somehow and next thing you know 4 elders come busting through the door waving "no blood" cards and shouting "freeze, jehovah's witnesses!
Soundbox,
The JW's don't have anything close to "truth". You are cordially invited to find out why.
Welcome, dude.
GBL
