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  What's up with Islam?

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a religion i am not too familiar with.

  so forgive me where i err.

  it seems that this religion accepts jesus, but only as a minor prophet.

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  Fangorn

  Read Bernard Lewis. He is the best by Far.
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  Let's Review: How the Watchtower Society Uses Quickbuilds to Make More $$$

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i posted something similar to this in another thread, but i decided that this is an important subject, and something that a lot of people don't realize, so i expanded it into its own post.

  and we can always use a review now and then, so that lurkers, active witnesses, and newly ex-witnesses can catch up.

  according to the watchtower society, one of the best examples of god's holy spirit operating on the organization is the building program.

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  Fangorn

  Deleted the story is absolutely true. You can drive by the old Kingdom Hall in Bonham, Texas and see it. The only thing wrong with the story as you told it is that there was a whole lot really vicious back and forth conflict before the issue was resolved in favor of the local congregation. The kingpin in the whole dealing was the local presiding overseer whom many in the Congregation worked for and he just decided he wanted to be the real boss one day. From the looks of the old Hall they haven't faired all that well.
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  What's up with Islam?

  by Tyrone van leyen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a religion i am not too familiar with.

  so forgive me where i err.

  it seems that this religion accepts jesus, but only as a minor prophet.

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  Fangorn

  Islam has alway been an expansive religion and they, that's the collective "they" based on the Koran, do intend to convert or kill everyone on the planet. Their history is one of expansion by fire and sword and they have only stopped when they have been defeated militarily. If you actually read history it is very clear. In Islam there is only the House of Islam and the House of War, telling don't you think?
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  GLOBAL WARMING ALERT....

  by SWALKER in

  1. social
  2. current

  the bush administration has now decided that global warming is indeed a fact and the u.s. is now going to put the polar bear on the threatened list (barring no set-backs):.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16361087/.

  swalker.

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  Fangorn

  And most of the world is not doing anything to "stop it." Including the screaming lefties in Europe who have missed all their targets.
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  JWs in Field Service Today--Christmas.

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess the local kh is doing a special field service outing today, which my wife will be a part of...on christmas morning.

  i think this is intrusive and disrespectful.. did any of you do fs on christmas?.

  is this a common thing among jws?

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  Fangorn

  Used to be fairly common when I was young, which was a while ago. Seemed to become less and less popular as time passed. I don't think many do it today.
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  there is apparently rampant apostacy in my ex kh

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my friend called and told me there were 3 announcements last night at the kh saying x, x, & x are no longer jw's.

  they all da'd themselves.

  all 3 sent letters out to a select group of friends and family before they gave their letters to the elders.

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  Fangorn

  Wow, I know a congregation in Northeast, Oklahoma with a reduced attendance. Wonder if it's the same place? Starts with M.
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  who is paid cleargy in WTS?

  by ukescott in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mormons claim that they don't have paid cleargy.

  it is true if they are taking about local churches.. but they have so many paid leaders in their organization: the general authorities made up of the first presidency, the twelve apostles, and the seventies, and seminary institute teachers, branch office administrators and staffs in each country, and etc.. what about the wts?

  who are the "paid cleargy"?

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  Fangorn

  I don't know, after conversations with several men in the 'traveling' work I'd say that they average 70 - 80,000 dollars a year. I always wonder how much gets reported to the IRS.
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  Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  link and clip:.

  http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

  hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

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  Fangorn

  Japanese aggression was almost without exception supported by the Japanese people so I'm not sure how 'innocent' they were collectively, so they paid the price for their support of a war mongering, aggressive government. If you want to talk about racism then look no further than the Japanese because they are without question the most racist people on the planet.
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  Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  link and clip:.

  http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

  hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

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  Fangorn

  And before you shed too many tears for the poor, innocent Japanese, you might give some thought to the 10 million plus dead Chinese as a direct result of Japanese aggression.
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  Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  link and clip:.

  http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

  hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

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  Fangorn

  Most estimates are that there would have been in excess of a million casualties if there had been an invasion of the Japanese homeland, they'd had opportunities to surrender and refused to take them. It probably would have been worse because they were holding considerable stocks of advanced weaponry for the invasion. The Bomb seems like a reasonable option. In addition, I have seen some of the documentation on the Japanese nuclear program and there is no question the intended to use dirty (radiologic) bombs on the West Coast. How advanced they were in the program to produce an actual nuclear explosion is much more vague.