Posts by TheListener

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MY DAD HAS LEFT THE ORGANIZATION!!

by freedomlover in

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friends

hold on everybody....ready for this.... .

if you've been reading my posts over the past few months you'd see the research and progress my dad (a former elder) has been making.

he and my stepmom were visiting us this weekend and he told us he's done with the jw's.

TheListener

YIPPEEE!!! Fantastic!!!!

This is truly good news and I'm so happy for you and Ithinkisee.

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Is Trojan doing OK?

by TheListener in

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friends

it's been over two months since trojan posted.

i hope he is doing ok. .

i know things can be difficult in his situation; but trojan if you are reading this i wish you the best of luck and hope you can begin to post once again.

TheListener

Thanks for the information Elsewhere.

Good luck Trojan. We're here for you when you need us.

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Went to my Uncle's Lutheran Funeral

by Seeker4 in

my uncle passed away a couple of weeks ago and i went to the funeral.

one of my pet peeves, even as a witness, was how bad the witness funerals usually were.

just an opportunity to give a witness about why the dead person wasn't going to heaven!

From my experience the main difference is whether the minister/pastor knew the deceased individual personally. If they did they usually eulogize. If they didn't they tend to mention one or two brief things and discuss general beliefs.

All in all the "worldly" services I've been too are more comforting than the generic KH ones. The KH just seems so sterile and cold, whereas a lot of churches have a nice homey and family feel to them.

I'm sorry to hear about your uncle.

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From Lurker to Newbie

by Warlock in

this is my first post and it is extremely difficult, but where else can i go?

i'm sure not going to join another religion and most of you have been where i have.

just for the record, i was a drunk, drug addict and dabbler in spiritism when i began studying, which also makes it difficult, because the j.w.

TheListener

Welcome Warlock. You're first posts were excellent. I remember those talks. I never followed the advice but a few of my friends did. I'm sorry you missed out on 20 years.

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Bethel Downsizing - Management Discussions

by core in

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friends

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the spin on downsizing is apparently "go out into the field" yet when the gb initially considered this it must have been presented as a practical problem - too much surplus hr capacity/ too expensive to maintain - or whatever and yet they turned it into a positive matter by stressing the return to the field - all those in such discussions are clearly able to deceive themselves as much as they try and deceive the "flock" - what do you think - did a discussion on a practical problem have to have a positive outcome and how did they twist their minds so as to sell it as such - for years they begged people to stay in bethel service (make it your home for life) and now they cast them out into the world with the thin veneer of "speedin g up the preaching work .. etc".

all those at the top must have been involved in turning this huge embarrasment (jehovah will provide etc) into a positive spin - they should try out for a marketing award "downsizing - the only way to grow!

TheListener

Anyone care to guess how all of this downsizing fits in with the end of the bethel elder arrangement? It seems to coincidental for them not to fit together somehow.

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GREAT news from Ian -- this one needs its own thread!

by Alleymom in

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friends

dear all,

thank you so much for the continued vigils.

and thank you, marjorie, for the continuing reminders!

TheListener

Congratulations Ian. I am so happy for you. I will continue to keep my vigil for you and others each week as you recover.

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Is Trojan doing OK?

by TheListener in

jw
friends

it's been over two months since trojan posted.

i hope he is doing ok. .

i know things can be difficult in his situation; but trojan if you are reading this i wish you the best of luck and hope you can begin to post once again.

TheListener

It's been over two months since Trojan posted. I hope he is doing ok.

I know things can be difficult in his situation; but Trojan if you are reading this I wish you the best of luck and hope you can begin to post once again.

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Are All Governing Body Members Created Equal?

by Gary1914 in

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i do not believe they are.. i think that some of the governing body members are sincere, god fearing men, who really believe the crap that they are dishing out to their members.

some of these men have been waiting for decades for paradise and refuse to give up on the idea that it will someday come.. on the other hand.

i believe that others on the governing body are actually evil.

TheListener

Yes Auld Soul that is much better.

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Are All Governing Body Members Created Equal?

by Gary1914 in

jw
friends

i do not believe they are.. i think that some of the governing body members are sincere, god fearing men, who really believe the crap that they are dishing out to their members.

some of these men have been waiting for decades for paradise and refuse to give up on the idea that it will someday come.. on the other hand.

i believe that others on the governing body are actually evil.