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  Praying at the Door

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an interesting side topic arose on another thread about praying with people at the door.

  i did door to door witnesses for decades and never once prayed with someone at the door, and yes, requests were made.. by not praying with worldly ones i was following the instructions from the fds.

  however, i never really understood the wts stance on this.. i would like to hear others thoughts about why praying at the door with someone would be scripturally appropriate or not.. i realize that it may be a loving and compassionate thing to do.

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  TheListener

  There are a lot of new posters here. This is a question I asked a couple years ago but only got one response.

  Any thoughts on witnesses praying at the door?
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  If Your Spouse Told The Elders On U, Is That a Marital or Religious Problem

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a faithful devout jw saw her husband on a board like this or reading "apostate" literature, if she was so disturbed by her husband's actions and the husband justified himself, would you think that if she told the elders because she was truly concerned that her mate was going to leave "the truth" and ultimately not make it into the "new system", --------that this was simply a marital issue-----not a religious one?.

  your opinions please..

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  TheListener

  How can you be truly "One" in marriage when you have to guard your thoughts and ideas even from your spouse? It is impossible unless you go against the very core of dub teaching.

  Cold Creek Swimmer summed it up pretty well.

  I'm in the situation now of trying to decide where my wife's line in the sand is regarding non-dub thoughts and activities.

  I want to be fully open and honest with my thoughts and actions (like posting here) but I'm nervous that something will cross her imaginary line in the sand and she'll rat me out.

  --how would you explain the difference of talking to a therapist vs. the elders regarding the very same information?
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  Disfellowshiping only began in 1952!! Before this Witnesses were immoral!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many witnesses lived together in sin or had many wives before 1952 during the rutherford era, this was frowned apoun but no one was disfellowshiped unless they did something major like critisize rutherford!

  then in watch.

  may 15 1944 and finally watch 1/3 1952, disfellowshiping was invented.

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  TheListener

  So much was left up to the company servants back then. The organization has become very very controlled.

  Remember when anal or oral sex with someone other than your husband/wife wasn't grounds for divorce?
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  W.W 2 - 1940's Australia Bethel helps out war effort!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  australia bethel had from 1938 began to make big money!

  they employed many brothers.

  they opened a saw mill, bakery, 20 kingdom farms, and an engineering company.

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  Nice find. I can't believe I've never heard of it before.
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  Looking for post with great analogy - posted within last month

  by TheListener in

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  2. friends

  i cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the wt.. it had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures.

  but, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says i cheat and don't look at anything that says i cheat.. .

  anyone remember it?

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  TheListener

  Thank you so much Alpha. I really appreciate you linking to that thread.
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  Looking for post with great analogy - posted within last month

  by TheListener in

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  2. friends

  i cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the wt.. it had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures.

  but, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says i cheat and don't look at anything that says i cheat.. .

  anyone remember it?

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  TheListener

  I cannot find a post where someone gave an excellent illustration about researching the WT.

  It had to do with someone telling your spouse that you cheated and sending pictures. But, the cheating spouse says don't believe the pictures and don't listen to anyone who says I cheat and don't look at anything that says I cheat.

  Anyone remember it? Can someone please link to it?

  TL
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  Sweet elderly sister reproved...

  by changeling in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for having too much contact with her df'd son!.

  she's a loyal, long time witness in her seventies, with a "non-believing" husband.

  she harms nobody with her bevavior.

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  TheListener

  You can be disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped or disassociated individual.

  But, an elderly sister contacting her son? Those elders must have sincerely had it in for her.
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  Do the Governing Body members do door-to-door field service?

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  those of you that have been around the gb members on a regular basis, do they actually do the door-to-door work themselves, or do they mainly count the talks they give as their field service time?

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  The simple answer is Yes.

  However, as some of them age they are able to go out less and less.
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  Who "Inspires" you on JWD?

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  is anybody here your hero, or a great inspiration to you?.

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  TheListener

  Everyone here inspires and motivates me to stay free and continue to learn.

  An earlier post said that many peope here share their very personal struggles and triumphs. The posters who share these things have a special place in my heart.

  A toast to all the posters who have ever taken time from their busy busy days and nights to write a personal and thoughtful reply to another poster; someone they may not know nor ever meet.

  It's not easy for a fading ex-jw to make friends. This board has become my surrogate family and I cannot wait until I begin attending apostafests so that I can meet my 'family' in person.
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  5000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS OF JW PEDOPHILE CASES AVAILABLE! B ANDERSON BOOK

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  barbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .

  its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .

  the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.

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  TheListener

  Great job Barbara. I want to personally thank you and all who assisted in this magnificent project.