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  Brave high school student exposes abuse and corruption within Jehovahs witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.

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  That was unbelievably well done! It brought tears to my eyes.

  If only I could get my wife to watch something like that.
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  BTT. I don't hear a lot from too many dubs. Has anyone heard anything else about the May video?
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  I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.

  they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .

  our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.

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  I wonder how the automatic donation stuff will work in a divided household.

  I can imagine having to tell my wife that I disputed the credit card charges to the WTS. I will support my wife in her chosen religion but I won't support her chosen religion.
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  Wow driving force. I am really sorry to hear that. My wife spent a few nights alone when I was fading. But once her anger died down things went back to pretty much normal. Actually it wasn't anger but more fear. Fear that I would become a crazed, drug abusing, violent, drunken madman. As she realized that I wasn't though things she calmed down and we settled into a routine.

  Good luck.
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  HELP - A Guide to Fade

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

  status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

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  I think it is important to slow your activities as an ms before just quitting. Same for meeting pets. Miss one or two or get someone to fill in a few times at the last minute so they get the idea that you are struggling. Then after awhile you can tell them you would like to reduce your duties to deal with your personal issues.

  The deal with fading is that it takes time. Its not for everybody because to truly try to keep the relationships you have made you need to go slow.
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  HELP - A Guide to Fade

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

  status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

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  Wow. Welcome to the forum cognitivedizzy. Fading from elder or ms is harder but still possible. Read some of the threads on here from other successful faders.

  My advice, get your wife to go with you and start to get phrases memorized like 'We are getting so stressed and down about this system (or work, family, whatever) that making the meetings is hard, but we are really trying' 'thank you brothers for your concern'.

  If you want to step aside you will probably have to serve for awhile with limited duties due to your 'stress and depression'.

  
  

  Fading can take awhile.
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  New arrangement from C.O.

  by Doctor Who in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

  visit about 2 months ago.

  during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

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  That must be why my wife doesn't call in when she misses a meeting.
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  Everything seems to be changing... why not birthdays?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if we look at all doctrines, we see an overall effort to conserve unity and control.

  - assuming most birthdays, if allowed, would probably be oriented to children, then that means 40 celebrations per year.

  so all in all, this give a total potential attendance to a birthday of 30 families (120 attendance / 4 family members).

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  I also think that it's about making them different. Lots of dubs thrive on feeling better than other christian religions because they don't do holidays and celebrations. It makes them feel special and I think that is what a lot of dubs thrive on. They may lose their family members or that great job but the whole time they are feeling superior and smug because they are different and better.
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  Sorry driving force. My wife still hasnt mentioned it. I dont even know if she watches the broadcasts. I assume she does because I figure they all do.

  I keep hoping that one day she will honestly look at me and ask 'why exactly did you fade?' and her freedom might begin.
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  TheListener

  Wow what a great thread! Thank you for starting it and for everyone who has posted so far.

  If my wife had watched it she hasn't said anything. But I expect her stubborness to prove me wrong about my fading would prevent her from sharing anything about her feelings about it with me.