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  Warwick Project Update Email

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  fwd from anon:.

  dear brothers,.

  we are happy to provide you with a brief progress update on the warwick project and explain how you can assist with a major adjustment recently approved in our construction schedule.

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  TheListener

  I wonder how they cut 4 months off their plan? Build less? Spend more? Lower cost/quality materials that can be gotten faster?
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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  Most dubs I know don't know anything about the layoffs but my guess is when they learn they'll just know that armgageddon is coming soon....

  Since their core belief is that this system is doomed, all input to their brains is interpreted to fit that belief.
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  Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.

  so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .

  but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.

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  I also think it's financial trouble since they've been raiding the congregation and circuit accounts for extra cash and still put projects on hold and have even said that new KHs will be built if the there are funds for that purpose. Which to me means the local brothers will have to donate all over again if they want to build a local KH and don't expect help from mother or the LDC.
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  A question about fading....

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i understand that many on this forum are undertaking a slow fade, over months, years even.. can i ask what is the benefit of that instead of a fast fade?.

  as i understand it, the elders only have to deal judicially with people who are still active witnesses, known in the community as witnesses, having contact and influence with witnesses etc.

  so surely the sooner you stop attending meetings the better.

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  I faded slow so I could keep my family. The only problem with fading is that it never really ends. The elders can do what they want as far as finding you years and years later and disfellowshipping you for some trumped up reason.

  I've always sort of envied those who DA or DF because once they're out they can freely do what they want with their lives.
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  "super-pioneer" (attempted "funny" parody video..)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-j3kuw9ii.

  oh dear.......

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  Imagine he has to fight the temptation on the internet every single time he goes to jw dot org. He will not win that fight. His hormones will beat him in the end.
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  They took all the circuit's money!

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the assembly they made an announcement about contributions and as always mentioned how expenses outnumbered the contributions so far and we are at a deficit of $6700 or so.

  however, they then said that our money on hand in savings for the circuit was $51,000 and that they voted and will be sending $45,000 of it to the society.

  who voted?

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  I agree with previous posters. The average dubs do notice that the cash is being grabbed, at least the few I hear talking when I'm with my wife. They believe the end is near and the money is required to make it to the finish line.

  Why God needs money is beyond me.

  Once the accounts are cleaned out I don't see the average circuit or congregation building up that kind of cash reserve again. Especially as the end doesn't come and the dubs are scratching their heads about there being no end and no money.
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  Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

  apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

  but still wtf?

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  Wait, have you seen a recent picture of his mother? Are we talking young motherF#%@! or old motherF@#!!#%?
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  JWs have more good points than bad

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

  2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

  this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

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  Welcome LSW, glad you posted. What else do you disagree with the WTS about? I'm always curious about how current JWs feel about things.
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  Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  firstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.

  i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.

  more entitled may be a better way of putting it.

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  I don't see how they could do it and actually expect to receive the money. A lot of jw families contain an unbelieving mates. It's doubtful that an unbelieving mate, male or female, would accept their spouse giving 10% of their income to the WTS.

  Plus as others have said most dubs don't have much money so why upset your followers with tithing when you won't really get much out of it.

  The WTS is probably better off just beating the money drum more regularly than they used to. Show some emotionally charged videos and look really sad. The money will come in from those that have it.
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  Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

  apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

  but still wtf?

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  Stupid question; Jeb should have said so. Or maybe he should have said "you yourself have said it"