Absolutely sickening.
TheListener
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WTBTS Approves of Admitted Pedophiles Serving as Elders!
by 00DAD inapparently it's now ok for known child abusers to be recommended as elders as long as the "sin" was years in the past: .
"for example, the sin may involve past child abuse, and this would likely disqualify him for years.
" - shepherd the flock of god, p. 38 (2010).
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Wish PaulNotSaul wife a speedy recovery
by TotallyADD intalk to paulnotsaul last night and found out his wife was in the hosptial.
it was very serious but she is going to be ok. this is our opportunity to wish her well.
get well soon mrs. paulnotsaul.
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TheListener
I wish you a speed recovery Mrs. PaulNotSaul.
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NEW RUMOR: WT ALLOWS BIRTHDAYS
by J.R.R.Watchtower ini've just read at a spanish forum for ex-jw that the wt has cooked a new light article series about social celebrations, including birthdays and aniversaries.
according to a member of this forum 'in short' the wt will let witnesses to decide by 'their bible trained conscience' either they celebrate birthdays or not.
is this rumor based in some real facts or it's just bullshit?.
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TheListener
Can someone provide the reference that was mentioned earlier from the WT 2000 Question from Readers on birthdays and anniversaries? I looked and didn't see any QFR that touched on that.
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July KM Week of July 25
by dontplaceliterature indid anyone catch the fact that the study edition of the watchtower was compared to a letter from paul (which was inspired by god for the benefit of all mankind...evidently)?.
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TheListener
That's the beauty of the WTS. They put the idea in print and the conductor and congregation add the intended meaning verbally.
It's a win-win for the WTS
Win 1: the point is driven home by the local congregation which means they take ownership of the point because they feel like they're included and important.
Win 2: The WTS has no statement on record with this particular article of making the direct comparison and a month from now no one will believe an apostate or doubter who happens to remember the comments the audience and conductor made.
Sigh....
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Elder body removed Watchtower letter
by Marvin Shilmer inelder body removed watchtower letter.
an elder body was removed last year in california.
most folks have never seen a watchtower letter breaking this news.
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TheListener
I wonder what the meetings are like? I wonder if they give parts? Do the local brothers and sisters support them or treat them any differently? What an odd situation.
It's like the BS votes in each KH when a new motion is made by the local corporation. There are never any nay's only yea's. I remember sitting there in my own local congregations thinking 'this doesn't make sense' but not having the courage to say 'nay'. to the vote.
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If you have sex with your spouse after you find out he/she cheated on you, you cannot divorce them.
by Chemical Emotions inin the key to family happiness book, the wbts says that if you have sex with your marriage mate after they cheat on you, and you knew it, you cannot divorce them.. i was disgusted by learning that.
i only discovered this recently, but i am very angry.
what if your husand tells you that he'll keep screwing other women if you don't have sex with him?
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TheListener
Remember the old days when Oral and Anal sex were not considered sexual relations and not worthy of allowing a divorce? What Pharisaical HorseCrap.
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Elder body removed Watchtower letter
by Marvin Shilmer inelder body removed watchtower letter.
an elder body was removed last year in california.
most folks have never seen a watchtower letter breaking this news.
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TheListener
Property is expensive. It took the WTS decades to acquire all the property and KHs they currently own. At the rate they're going all of the best, most valuable properties will be gone and along with it the revenue stream they generated.
Once the property is gone what will they sell next - their soul? Nah, they've done that.
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Could you eat breakfast after watching this at Bethel?
by Dogpatch inthis is a partial video of the morning breakfast table in brooklyn bethel in the late 80s, with lyman swingle hosting... the governing body member who at first tried to shelter ray franz from disfellowshipping, but then within a year or two his spirit was broken and he was a bitter man.. randy (i was there and it was death-dealing, like the death eaters from harry potter!).
address of windows media file if you don't see anything:.
http://www.randytv.com/swinglebreakfast.wmv.
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TheListener
This was a good one compared to Couch or Gangas.
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Service Meeting says "Leave Everything"
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inthis has probably been addressed, but i'm in a rush and wanted to get this out asap while it's fresh and before i have to run off again.
and i don't have the km with me to note the exact instructions and passages discussed, anyway.... last week in the service meeting, there was an unusual part that i wish i would have been prepared for.
the only material was to read a couple passages from luke and discuss how they affect our attitude toward our ministry.
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TheListener
Let's face it a ton of witnesses are just going through the motions. They listen to the FDS and they believe all of it on the surface but their actual lifestyles and choices show something different.
Imagine a witness from the 1950s or 1960s running into a witness today. I think the 1950s/60s witness would be totally shocked and disgusted.
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To ex-elders,that are df'ed, disassociated, fadeing and a wife thats still in please answer this.
by TheLoveDoctor inme ex elder, pioneer was very active but am trying to fade.
one elder knows how i feel and i would not talk to anyone but him.
i miss most meetings now.
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TheListener
I've faded and my wife is still in. It stinks.