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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  TheListener

  link?
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  Recent recollections from the regional convention.

  by ulises225 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  short story long, i've been out for 6 months now, my family are studying with the witnesses and they believe that is the true path but sided with me when i was disfellowshipped, they made it very clear they were not going to shun me and now i'm taking steps to make them realize what this religion really is about, meanwhile, it made my mother happy to know i went to the regional convention in a city where i don't know any witnesses which made it easier for me, anyways.. during one of the talks one of the speakers mentioned that convention where rutherford changed the name of "bible students" to that of jehovah's witnesses, and he said that the even was broadcasted worldwide through the radio, none of this is news, however he said that at that hour of the day when the announcement was given, witnesses in japan were trying to get the radio signal fixed so they could hear the talks given by rutherford, basically he said they failed to fix the radio signal but "miraculously" the signal was ok during the announcement so witnesses in japan got to hear the announcement, broke in tears and then the signal was gone again.. now that i know how the organization conducts itself i know this story is pure nonsense but if we examine this and please correct me if i'm wrong the data given by the speaker proves the story to be false by itself.

  first i remember that it wasn't until knorr sent missionaries to japan that witnesses began to appear in japan, i remember a video where lloyd barry speaks of missionaries arriving to japan in the 40's and he said there were only a handful of witnesses whereas the speaker at the convention mentions "how many brothers in japan gathered to hear the radio broadcast by rutherford" second, the speaker is part of the branch committee in mexico so he ought to know that what he was saying was not true at all.. anyways this is my first post.

  i will try to do this regularly, and if someone is from mexico i'm up to meet anyone.

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  Welcome to the board. Glad you are out. I can't stand the WTS fake miracle crap. Typical of them to be just vague enough as to make it impossible to verify or discredit.
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  The shift: from follower to wanting to leave

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this week has been the week when my whole way of thinking shifted.

  i still cannot believe how this can happen so fast.

  over a period of seven days i went from not even imagining that i could ever not be a witness to wanting to get out of this organisation.. .

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  TheListener

  Welcome paradisebeauty. I woke up researching about 607 and the flood. I tried to keep my research strictly to the subjects that interested me and refused to look at "apostate" material. I eventually couldn't believe what I was finding and my research expanded.

  I was physically sick for months and months as I learned the TTATT. My wife didn't leave me but she is still a witness. I hope one day she wakes up too.

  Hang in there and know we will support you by listening and sharing our stories too.
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  Kind of looking for a quick update

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been out of the religion since 1996. i used to come to former witness boards a lot in the distant past, and then i lost interest in the subject.

  however, with a couple relatives still in and passing the 1914 one hundred year mark, i find myself looking to see what a modern jehovah's witness is believing.

  could i get kind of an update on some things.

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  TheListener

  I am faded and not treated as disfellowshiped...yet

  Also, the bookstudy was cancelled and wrapped into the TMS and the mags only come out once monyh. There is a public watchtower and a witness watchtower that contains the study articles.

  There are 2 one day assemblies each year and the district is now called a regional and it's always 3 days. I think it will shrink to 2 days in a year or two.

  The anointed numbers continue to climb. There are now over 14,000. 1935 no longer has significance.
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  Stress on young ones

  by LHS123 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a horrible conversation with my 14 year old last night which i regret.

  im still in but doubting more and more every day.. she is recently baptized.

  she is outgoing and gorgeous and make friends easily, although not so much with the sisters in our hall, who pick her up and drop her again regularly , leaving her out of parties etc but then bringing her back into the circle, dropping her again...and so on.

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  TheListener

  LHS123 you have a pm.
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  Talked to a couple from the Hall that I haven't seen in a while

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we were waiting for my mother in law to come out of surgery.not much was talked about on "spiritual" matters (since i haven't been to a meeting in years).however, i got to hear about :government conspiracies to shut down alternative energy.. gmos are bad.

  gmos are bad.

  gmo's are bad!!!

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  TheListener

  I know a few older ones who excitedly bought tablets and started trying using them for service and the meetings. The young ones have a full time job helping the older ones out with technical problems.

  On some level the older ones must feel like they are being left behind. The frustration must be incredible. You're older, less able physically, the end hasn't come and a lot of those you were friends with have passed away, the society is changing beliefs left and right and now to top it all off the society has embraced technology that you barely understand much less can operate. And the younger ones do get frustrated doing all that technical support.
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  Merritt Island Shopping Mall in Florida allows the harmful cult to spread their propaganda to their unsuspecting customers

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  merritt island shopping mall in florida allows the harmful pedophile protecting cult to spread their propaganda to their unsuspecting customers...here's contact info for management http://www.merrittsquaremall.com/info/management.

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  The first two brothers have the weirdest smiles. They look like wolves in sheeps clothing. How ironic.
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  Thoughts: Convinced that my wife will never awake from the brainwashing

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all, it's been a long time since i have posted.

  well, things have not changed on my end.

  i am still going thru the motions.

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  TheListener

  I eventually just completely faded. It was the only way I could keep my sanity and hopefully save my kids from believing the wts crapspeak. It was really painful for awhile but I just figured I would need to show my wife other ways that I loved and supported her. I never discourage her meeting attendance and stuff but I have been pretty successful in saving the kids. I am a lot happier now that I am not expected to participate.
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  What if we could bring down the WBTS?

  by derangedjdub in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?

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  TheListener

  If I was smart enough I would try to get my wife involved in a non-denominational church as the WTS fell. That may keep her from getting involved in an off shoot of the WTS that is even more controlling.

  I really think that some people feel that the more controlling and restrictive a religion is the more right it is and the more righteous they are.
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  Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'

  by LHS123 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry for the long post but i need help.

  ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.

  a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.

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  TheListener

  LHS 123 be really really careful what you say to the elders. They won't have what's best for you in mind only what's best for the congregation. You may not want to give them any specifics as to why you feel the way you do. A lot of people use the stress and depression angle to slow down their meeting attendance and service time.

  Also remember that if you give the elders any specifics they will show you the WTS answer to that and expect you to accept that and move on. If you listen to them but continue to disagree they could take that as a willfully bad attitude.

  I was very careful what I told my wife as I faded away. I didn't want her running to the elders to turn me in.