Posts by TheListener

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Karma kind of makes me smile.......am I bad?

by KateWild in

today at work one of the clients that came in for advice was an elder and his wife.

they must be having issues they need help with.

this elder was the elder that told us not to go to a domestic violence shelter or not to go to the police when my daughter got a black eye.. am i bad because i smiled inside that they are having problems?.

TheListener

You took the high road which is why you're a better person than me.

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Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

TheListener

The fact that my wife believes this and tries to teach it to others in her rare field service outings amazes me. I can't imagine how insane anyone but an indoctrinated person would think this teaching is.

I would laugh if the whole damn thing wasn't so painful

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Brothers - Reach Out for a Fine Work!

by cappytan in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c1ixarr31y.

they must really be having issues finding brothers to slave for the org..

TheListener

Is that porn music in the beginning?

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Just heard from someone who was just in Cozumel that there are 9 Kingdom Halls in about a mile zone.

by Butyoucanneverleave in

it's because of their tremendous growth.

can anyone verify?

TheListener

Sir82, I know your question was rhetorical but it's probably the same reason why a lot of dubs in industrialized nations drive nice cars, live in nice homes and have nice clothes.

Being a witness makes them feel better than everyone else because they feel superior in their knowledge of world events but economically they like to blend in.

just my 2 cents.

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Just handed in my Disassociation letter

by Thirteenth tribe in

tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).

i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.

i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.

TheListener

Welcome Thirteenth Tribe! I am so glad you are free and posted to let us know about it. It's great you won't lose family but actually gain a better relationship with them instead.

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Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism

by jwfacts in

i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .

why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?

how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?

TheListener

With respect to leaving the WTS here is how I feel:

As long as each person does what they need to do in order to maintain their happiness and mental well being who are we to judge their motives or methods.

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Finding love as a witness

by RawrSaysTheLion in

hi i'm new.. i'm going on 2yrs as a baptized witness although i've just received a reproval on the grounds of living with a wordly man unmarried for 6 months.

long story short it ended messy and i ran straight back to the witnesses because i do love jehovah and i missed my family.

my issues were only with the actual organization.. i desperately want to find someone to share my world with but i feel like i'm too tainted to be loved by anyone worthy in the truth and my morals are to high to love another boy from the world.

TheListener

Welcome Rawr, glad you posted. You will get lots of advice here but it's really up to you to look at it and really think it over. Sometimes what is familiar to us isn't always the best or right thing. I know a lot of non-witness people who would be considered moral and I know a lot that wouldn't, same goes for those in the local congregation and circuit. In my experience witnesses are just a bit better at hiding their true feelings/actions due to the potential of not just losing a mate in divorce but being disfellowshipped and losing pretty much everyone they know.

I hope you take the time to review jwfacts.com and think about what jwfacts the poster said about following rules and regulations making us similar to the Pharisees.

I'm really sorry you're so stressed out right now and I wish you all the best. Please keep up posted on how things go.

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We give more to the Watchtower Society than for our local KH

by James Jack in

i have been doing the accounts for our local congregation now for 3 years.

i just thought, wow our local expenses total just $500 a month, yet we have an ongoing expense each month of $600 for the kh expansion work(ie:world wide work), $60 for the traveling overseer insurance and $54 for the local kingdom hall insurance, in addition to the operating committee expense of $525.. so, our one congregation sends $714 a month plus what the publishers contribute towards the world wide work usually between $600 to $700 per month.

in other words, we are at least sending, for our little congregation of 75 publishers, $1314 a month!

TheListener

If I understand right your hall with about 75 publishers sends in about 1,300 to the society and uses an additional 500 or so for local expenses each month, for a total donation from the congregation of about 1,800 a month.

So 1,800 / 75 = 24. Of course every publisher doesn't contribute, I never did as a teen unless my parents gave me some money to put in the box. So that means some publishers are giving more.

24 or something a bit more a month doesn't seem like much to contribute even for a dub. I could see this makes sense on an average basis.

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

TheListener

Vidiot, I know, just saying...

Hey who downvoted me? That's so unloving, I am reporting you to the elders.

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My experience with the people in my hall

by Freeandclear in

i've been awake now for about 6 months i'd guess and a member here for a couple of weeks.

it's been eye opening to read other peoples experiences on here and i appreciate all of you.

i've noticed in many, seemingly most, of your comments that you were not treated well at your hall or you have had very negative experiences in the "org" so i thought i'd like to share mine.. in all my time as a jw i have to say for the most part i always loved the people.

TheListener

I was raised in a multi-generational witness family and most witnesses I knew were friendly and kind. I think the difference could be that most congregations/circuits have cliques and if you are in the clique you are ok and if you are out of the clique it can be hell. Like an earlier poster said if they smell blood in the water it's all over.

Friendly or unfriendly people don't make the organization any more accurate in their teachings though - it's still a cult.