Posts by TheListener

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So who attended the memorial and why?

by atomant in

this should be interesting.

TheListener

Kids and I went to keep peace in our house. Small price to pay for our freedom. Wife does some holiday stuff with us so it's all fair.

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2016 Memorial Done & Dusted

by steve2 in

well on this side of the planet, the southern hemisphere/ new zealand, the 2016 memorial service in local kingdom halls will be over for another year.

another great big anticlimax.

some family and relatives will have gone - but unless i ask my sister, i generally have no idea about attendance and partaker numbers.

TheListener

Ugh boring. Waaaaay too much time in the talk about who shouldn't partake. And you much time on how we can earn salvation.

Always the funny ritual when the passers of the bread and wine sit down and get served themselves. It's so ridiculous.

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Gross! Grooming of young brothers in the KH to do more for Jehobadahhh and his organ-nigh-say-shun! I saw it myself.

by macys in

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friends

so there is this young brother probably 14 or 15 and the elders are already grooming him to do more for jehobadahhh.

most of the elders in this kh are old like 60+ and sometimes there are not enough brothers to do the mics or sound so you will see a 70 year old elder forced into action.

almost comical to see a brother who thinks instagram is an email service try to operate the sound system and projector as he plays the wrong song or brings the screen down during a prayer.

Macys, reinstatement? Would I be wrong to assume this is for family reasons and not because you believe it's the right religion? How do you hide your lifestyle to your family and the other dubs? That must be really hard and really frustrating. I hope your family accepts you back and doesn't shun you again if you try to fade later.

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Gross! Grooming of young brothers in the KH to do more for Jehobadahhh and his organ-nigh-say-shun! I saw it myself.

by macys in

jw
friends

so there is this young brother probably 14 or 15 and the elders are already grooming him to do more for jehobadahhh.

most of the elders in this kh are old like 60+ and sometimes there are not enough brothers to do the mics or sound so you will see a 70 year old elder forced into action.

almost comical to see a brother who thinks instagram is an email service try to operate the sound system and projector as he plays the wrong song or brings the screen down during a prayer.

TheListener

I agree with most of the OP but not the part about the elder being a pedo. That's not fair to say. Macys I read your bio and you have been through a lot, I'm really sorry that you lost your family and I am glad you are in a supportive place now.

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Caitlyn Jenner has cognitive Dissonance

by sherrie11 in

i have just finished watching the latest episode of i am cait!

lol yes i watch it!!!

they were discussing politics.

TheListener

We need a political party that is fiscally conservative but socially liberal.

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How much is the Bethel allowance now? It used to be $14!

by Maryo in

i am wondering how much the bethel "allowance" is now?

it used to be $14!

is it true they really sign a vow of proverty now?

TheListener

Plus if you were at the farm or Patterson you could keep a log and be reimbursed for mileage to and from the kingdom hall. There was also a recommended contribution amount for riding with someone to and from the meetings. Having a beater car could be a real money maker if gas prices were low.

I still have my driving log.

27

I am losing

by NoMoreHustle in

i haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.

it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.

the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.

TheListener

Both marriage mates deserve and need to be happy. You both have to be willing to let the other person live their life and make their own choices. It's not easy, especially where the WT is concerned, but it is possible. There are many examples on the board of marriages that have survived one spouse leaving the WT and marriages that have ended. Each situation is unique.

I think it's good you posted because the board can offer support and that's always good.

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Question: refuse, or limit to collaborate with elder inquiry?

by prologos in

should a teen, a child of a believing mother, cooperate in the fact-gathering of the elders into the waywardness (not sex related, hopefully) of some local teenagers?

what scenarios can you see playing out?

all teens to clam up?

TheListener

Ratt-

Round and round
With love we'll find a way just give it time
Round and round
What comes around goes around
I'll tell you why so

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Has anyone noticed the JW movies are trying to normalise their lifestyle?

by truthseeker in

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friends

having watched the prodigal son returns movie produced by the organization and a recent mini-clip of a brother in london who is shown jogging and doing normal everyday things while wanting to "reach out" it occurred to me that the organization is trying to normalize their bizarre lifestyle and beliefs for the benefit of non-witnesses.. what do i mean by normalization?

they try to make the witnesses look like just another christian denomination who are reasonable while their members live and enjoy normal lives that appear to be within the mainstream.. they do this by not mentioning anything to do with higher education, armageddon or the urgency of the end of the world nor is their discussion or mention of the blood issue.

these are things mentioned often at kingdom halls and in study articles.. watching the prodigal son returns, the family appears to live a normal life, going to meetings and studying.

TheListener

Courting and being in a public place without a chaperone would be ok but you would have to arrive separately or if you went together you would need a chaperone for the trip and they could sit at a separate table.

Or if a witness worked at the public place you were visiting you could pick up your courtin' date and her father would know when she got picked up and the witness working at the public place could call the father to let him know the couple arrived (therefore no messin' around time on the way) and repeat the procedure when they leave (again, no messin' around time).

Sure sure that video was realistic......NOT

I know because I lived it more than once and from different perspectives. Stopping young people from touching each other's parts is a huge part of dub life.

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Latest on Greg Stafford

by Nitty-Gritty in

for all those who know who greg stafford is/was.

the former "apostate/apologist and author of three dissertations and other books, is on page 2 of the march 2016 meeting work book.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/march-2016-mwb/meeting-schedule-mar7-13/welcome-memorial-guests/.

TheListener

I thought his blog said he is no longer a witness and goes into a lot of detail as to why witnesses are wrong on several things?

I don't get it.