I do I do!
-BONEZZ
the divine name that will endure forever .
that's the name of a brochure by the wts that tries to impress upon us why what god's name is and why we should use it.
we all know that jehovah's witnesses use the name "jehovah" for god in all their bibles and publications.
I do I do!
-BONEZZ
my wife and i live in a rather small town.
around 5500 residents and about another 2 to 3 thousand on the outskirts.. we have a very good hospital here, considering the size of the county and residents.. my wife is a nurse and now is the office mgr.
of the home health dept.. it seems that there is no end to the several things the hospital is involved in that call for volunteers.
outoftheorg,
One of the first things I began to notice after leaving "God's Org'" was the incredible generosity of those bad ol' worldlies...not all of 'em, but a hellava lot more of them than dubbies. Many try to make their town, community and this world a better place to live in. I feel humbled and very embarassed for the many years I spent looking down my JW-trained nose at these people.
-BONEZZ
the divine name that will endure forever .
that's the name of a brochure by the wts that tries to impress upon us why what god's name is and why we should use it.
we all know that jehovah's witnesses use the name "jehovah" for god in all their bibles and publications.
I bet Vanna knows what vowels go with YHWH.
-BONEZZ
my parents became jws in 1973. i was 6.my father was a very abusive person wanting to fight anyone and everyone.of course my mother and moreso myself usualy caught the brunt of his abuse.he whipped me with a belt i believe as hard as he could and did not discrimenate as to where he hit youie in the face legs back you get the picture.. well my mom was thrilled when he agreed to study the bible with these nice people.they taught love and i think that was what appealed most to her.my dad was an obsessive compulsive person so he first argued points in the bible with them,but soon found he was no match for them.so he started taking his studies seriously and read the bible like crazy,i mean 5or6 hours at a time every day.. after a while they were baptised and things got better...................for a while.he then became very demanding with regard to studying for the watchtower all the meetings and personal reading.i could barely read,but most of all he became even less tolerant than before.the beatings continued sometimes worse.my mom had called the elders over no less than 6 times in a 5 year period to report his treatment of her and his beating me.as you may guess the elders did nothing.they sited some scriptures and admonished me to give my father respect.i thoght the elders would help me and make him stop.but they didnt.so i lived life on pins and needles with him going to every meeting studying (well you guys know we studied a lot).until age 16, my father started his fits and i ran away.boy did i go crazy then.worldly people wild parties you name it.to make a long story shorter i was living fot the day because tomorrow i may die.. i was recomended bad association during my absence,i got marrie at age 18 and went back to meetings and wow i was no longer bad association.that marriage lasted 2 years we had a daughter wich we shared custody and a lot of times my mother and father would watch her.
well during that period my father abused her sexually.my ex told me about it.said my daughter told her .well stupid me i didnt believe it and i guess the elders didnt either because they did nothing.. i was never baptised and drifted away again.flash to 1 year ago now married 10 years 3 more children and who knocks on the door you guessed it watchtower toting smily faced jws.well i always believed and carried guilt around all the time.so of course a agree to a study soon i have the whole family studying.the elder i studied with kept telling me i would be an elder soon,i didnt understand then how that could be.i soon realised that was his way of motivating me.well my world crashed down when my 2nd oldest daughter was molested by my father.i never should have trusted him to watch her and i feel enormous guilt.. my father did this while innactive but almost immediately he went back to jws like nothing happened.i wont go into some of the drama between him and myself but bottom line the elders were told and he was reproved he admitted to sexual misconduct and all that happened was restrictions.they said he could never go in field service by himself but he does.he will never be an elder but other than that he is a member in good standing.this stumbled my wife and i greatly.in the interim the elder from our seperate congregation (not my fathers) was in a big rush to have my same 12 year old daughter baptised.well she was at the summer convention.. i later found out that he was up for promotion to circuit ovsr.while a very good teacher you could tell he was all about position.
my wife bought crisis of conscience and slowly had me reading it too.
ko38,
Congrats on your escape.
-BONEZZ
i was wondering how many famous actors, musicians, and other public figures either are jw's or became jw's at some point in their life.
eveyone knows about [b] prince{b], and [b]michael jackson[/b], but i've also heard that they snagged up [b]george benson[b], a former indian prime minister and rapper [b]dres[/b] of the group the black sheep.
obviously this will be a short list since the society doesn't do much to encourge any kind of success, especially not the kind that will leave you with millions of adoring fans.
I believe the famous golfer is Mark O'Meara. He supposedly became friendly with Tiger Woods and witnessed to him. I was also told by a moron/elder that Mark would whistle "We're Jehovah's Witnesses" while playing a round at the Masters or wherever. I was so impressed at the time.
When growing up I always heard that the Nelsons of Ozzie & Harriet fame studied but just didn't make the truth (gag) their own. Oh yeah, Glen Campbell also supposedly studied and in my neck of the woods (actually closer to Avishai's )...Radar (Gary Burghoff) of MASH studied with some folks I knew. Alas...he didn't make the truth his own either. I think Radar has a 6th sense for bullshit. That's all I can think of that haven't been mentioned.
-BONEZZ
Badboy,
Very sorry to hear that news. Please take care.
-BONEZZ
so often , on this board, we see imposters claiming to be interested in learning the truth about the "truth".
they may seem to genuinely want to know things and they might ask thought-provoking questions.....so how do you know if the person you're dealing with is the real deal or not??
any tips to help us know who those "fake apostates" are??
It would depend on how much polyester they were wearing.
-BONEZZ
a little before 5p.m., i got a call asking me how long i'd be working to.
it was my ex best friend, i'll call roger.
i recognized his voice.
Min,
Just like the mafia...it's not your enemies that will get you...It's your "friends".
-BONEZZ
hi there, i'm new to the board and have turned here for advice.
i am a new teacher and have a child in my class who is a jw.
as i know nothing about the religion i thought i would ask here.. i am aware that he will not be able to take part in re or religious assemblies or christmas activities.
Wow...what a great teacher! I wish I'd had someone like you when I was growing up...being sent to the Principals office for not saluting the flag...sitting in the hallway reading my assignments by myself during holiday activities...and on and on. You're in a unique position to show compassion to kids who are put into situations they should not have to deal with. How many times did I hear the story of Daniel in the lions den?!
As others have pointed out, there are many double standards in this cult. No birthday celebrations because two people were beaded in Biblical times at birthday celebrations...however they do now allow Pinatas at generic parties even though they had ties with the Church in the past...even tell their followers to ignore past uses of Pinatas...but not birthdays...go figure.
Your compassion will allow this young person to realize that not all "worldly people" (their code word for non-JW folks) are bad and should be destroyed at Armageddon...and maybe help him break away at a later time. Thank you for teachers like you.
-BONEZZ
we are ready to let it out.
our da letter says it all.
( re-copied only to keep off the names, everything else as is.
Good for you. I'm sorry you had to go thru so much.
-BONEZZ