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  Attorney's response-Minors-baptism-verbl-cntract

  by Cappuccino OC in

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  this is the response that an attorney, practicing in the state of ca, responded to my question if minors are bound the verbal contract (questions 1, 2 given after the baptism talk).

  "nice to hear from you.

  in response to your question, although i am not a contracts attorney (i have some knowledge in the area), in my opionion, i don't believe that you can contract with a minor and force a minor to perform under the contract.

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  bonovox

  All legal issues aside, I think I understand angryXJWs position, while thoroughly disagreeing with the manner in which he originally presented it.

  I could use these legal precepts and take on the WTS, the elders, whoever, but in the final analysis, whether a secular court forces the WTS to annul my baptism at 13 will change nothing about what really is hurting me. My mom will still view me as da'd and therefore df'd, and will still have nothing to do with me. A legal ruling is not going to change the fact that she just does not love me enough to accept me not being JW.

  And I think that is something anyone who is seriously contemplating this type of legal action should consider: what is your ultimate goal? To get a piece of paper with a legal ruling on it? Ask yourself, will your loved ones who previously shunned you now miraculously welcome you back with open arms because the courts ruled that your baptism at such a young age is invalid?

  But if you've got the time and money to fight it for your own peace of mind or so that others are not similarly harmed, I offer you the best of luck...you will need it, for alot of the reasons' noted in others' posts.
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  Did you use drugs and go...INSANE!?

  by refiners fire in

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  when i was 27 my brother held a bucks night party for my first marriage and we went to a strip joint.

  de rigeure for the boys bucks night.

  it was all a bit of a none event, so next night he brought around drugs to my house, marijuana.

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  I was watching Black Hawk Down last night while smoking a nice spliff and I could swear I saw J-LO strip for the soldiers and....

  HAHA...funny post refined...you were being funny, right??

  Actually my younger brother was given weed laced with PCP and he had a really freaked out experience, but in the 13+ years I've smoked ganga I've never had anything similar.

  Everybody's different, I suppose.
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  Catholics New Sex Abuse Policy . Now What WBTS???

  by Nanoprobe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  bishops approve new policy on abusive priests

  below are some excerpts from the new catholic policy.

  even though the catholic people are not happy with the entire policy, i was just thinking how much better it is than what jehovahs witnesses received.

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  Has anyone yet noted that since this scandal broke there have been no less than 250 resignations or removals of Catholic priests and clergymen in the US alone? 250???
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  JW Family on 'Designing for the Sexes?'

  by Xander in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  kinda weird, anyone see 'designing for the sexes' tonight?

  as they were panning the camera around the finished room, they rolled over the bookcase and...2 revelation books, 2 evolution books, insight books..etc.

  on the desk?

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  bonovox

  Xander, what is NAMBLA? The writer of the article in question was gay, if I recall (its at least a year old), and he polled local gays that he knew. I have no idea how the question was phrased. He wrote the article basically blasting what he called 'a prevailing gay promiscuity problem' because it was giving 'moderate gays' like him a bad name and helping perpetuate negative stereotypes of gays, much as urban legends do. I believe he was prompted to write the article after he observed a disproportionate number of what appeared to be older gay men parading around his neighborhood and in the gay bars with what appeared to be middle to upper class surburban boys barely 17 or 18. I did not read the article myself, but was informed of the basic premise and content of it in a lively discussion with gays that I know. Basically they were debating the article and I was privy to the argument, which presented both views, including the one you share.

  I didnt want to go into my own extensive personal experience with gay men having lived around, worked with and catered to them (I ran a business in what is somewhat affectionately known here as the 'gay ghetto' for a few years whose clients were 80% gay, by rough estimate) as that would be predjudicial and largely irrelevant. But suffice it to say that even those experiences would prompt me to be a little more cautious about allowing a gay male to be in my home and around my son. Not homophobic, as Im sure someone will soon scream here, but realistically cautious.

  Edited by - bonovox on 15 June 2002 10:1:29
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  Name some must have rock records

  by Leander in

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  2. friends

  i've spent a lot of time on allmusic.com and it amazes me how much nirvana is mentioned when the reviewers rate other albums.

  so its a no brainer that nirvana's work should probably have a place in every rock collection, but what are some other albums every rock fan should listen to if not own.

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  HOW THE HELL DID I FORGET ABOUT RUSH???? They are my all-time favorite Canadian band!!!

  ....off to listen to The Spirit of Radio...

  "one likes to believe in the freedom of music..

  but glittering prizes and endless compromises

  shatter the illusion of integrity...YEAH!"
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  Coming to Canada August 30th-wanna party?

  by ashitaka in

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  2. friends

  yup, i'm visiting naeb and going to a tragically hip concert, but i figure i'll be up there with the wifey for about five days.

  who wants to party with us?.

  i'm sure naeb has things planned (like getting me smashed and laughing his ass off while my wifey photographs me in compromising positions so that the imcriminating pics can be posted gleefully here).

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  This sounds kinda cool, and I'd love to get to know some of you fellow crazy Canucks too! I hope its not the last week of August tho, I'll be up in Baysville camping...or maybe some other time? Im always downtown so Im pretty flex on a meeting place..
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  JW Family on 'Designing for the Sexes?'

  by Xander in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  kinda weird, anyone see 'designing for the sexes' tonight?

  as they were panning the camera around the finished room, they rolled over the bookcase and...2 revelation books, 2 evolution books, insight books..etc.

  on the desk?

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  Yeah, well, given that a prominent gay men's magazine in my area released an article last summer that claimed that of gay males polled the number one gay male sexual fantasy was 'sex with boys under the age of 14', it'll be a frosty Friday in hell before a gay contractor steps foot in my house, well at least while my boy is around.
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  SUICIDE IN KH PARKING LOT

  by Sabine in

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  2. current

  last saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.

  he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.

  i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".

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  Jesus...Sabine please accept my deepest sympathies for your loss which must be all the more painful in light of this most recent tragedy. In addition if you are to send any expressions of sympathy to that boy's mother please send mine as well.

  I've been to the brink a good many times myself. Sometimes it hurts SO much that I can't even help my own mother see how much I love her, just not her religion. Honestly if I didn't have two beautiful kids of my own I probably would have ended my life along time ago.
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  Moving to the official JW site.

  by Bleep in

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  2. bible

  i will be going to the real jehovahs witnesses site.

  anyone who wants to see the light go there.

  no one will have bold letters trying to make a fool of themselves.

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  The only thing that strikes me when I read your posts bleep is that you most probably are high when you write them. Not trying to offend, but they usually are cryptically meandering which makes it difficult to understand exactly just what it is you are trying to say.

  That doesn't mean I think you should leave, tho.
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  Watch Tower Heavy Metal

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did you guys know there is a heavy metal group named watch tower?

  i remember some years ago, when i was looking on the net i typed in watchtower.com and came across their website.

  apparently when the society decided to go online they must have paid big buck to watch tower to have the domain name.

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  Notice the heavy pyramid imagery on the graphic?? I found that interesting, given the Watchtower's early history with pyramids...hmmm....