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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

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  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  sorry about the double posting
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Thanks for your condolences. It was exactly my Grandfather's loyal and meticulous nature that made him an ideal Jehovah's Witness. But, like I said, I wouldn't change that, if I could have him back. I can't be the only person here whose family is torn apart by this religion. But you've got to find a way around it... or it will be too late, like it is now for me. The thing that really annoys me is how they treated him whe he was ill. Even though he was an Elder, he was virtually ignored (this may be just his congregation btw and not all JWs). No help. NO NOTHING. Despite about 50 yrs of loyal service. I used to live in China and it is banned there to go round converting people. At the risk of sounding fascist, I think they're on the right track. Seriously.
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Thanks for your condolences.
  
  It was exactly my Grandfather's loyal and meticulous nature that made him an ideal Jehovah's Witness. But, like I said, I wouldn't change that, if I could have him back. I can't be the only person here whose family is torn apart by this religion. But you've got to find a way around it... or it will be too late, like it is now for me.
  
  The thing that really annoys me is how they treated him whe he was ill. Even though he was an Elder, he was virtually ignored (this may be just his congregation btw and not all JWs). No help. NO NOTHING. Despite about 50 yrs of loyal service.
  
  I used to live in China and it is banned there to go round converting people.
  
  At the risk of sounding fascist, I think they're on the right track. Seriously.
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Did anyone else experience that someone who was a fervent JW unexpectedly 'mellowed' when they knew they were near the end? My Gdad, bless him, suddenly started asking about birthdays and Christmas even though 'Christmas' was a dirty word in their house previously.
  
  Does anyone else feel ANGRY?
  
  Angry, because my Grandad was stolen from me...
  By his Church. No-one here understands. Even my friends...how could they understand, I mean...in England almost NO-ONE goes to church, let alone a quasi-cult or however you want to call it.
  
  Anyhow...
  despite the 'Bible Studies', 'Watchtowers', etc., I wouldn't care if he was here again, Watchtower or no, Bble or no, Bible Study or no, Blood Transfusion or no
  
  :(
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Thanks to everyone. I really mean that. Now I know what to expect, I feel more prepared.
  
  Treshappy- I meant to say, I am sorry about your Grandmother. I was too caught up in my own sadness and didn't say that.
  
  I am clearer now about what will happen...They have never given up on converting me...
  
  Now, I am determined to have a seperate service for my Grandfather, maybe even just at our house or local Church of England Church. There will be almost no-one there becuase everyone they knew is in the Kingdom Hall. But that won't stop us!!
  
  
  In my first post I mentioned differences between England and overseas JWs. But now I have read more, I must say, it seems remarkably similar internationally.
  
  Anyway, forgive me long posts...I just feel very sad right now.
  
  p.s. my posts are all one paragraph without formatting, even though I type them with formatting...does anyone know why?
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  I just read someone's sad post about their Mother's funeral. It says they went home and did their own service where they had candles and pictures and talked about their memories. I will suggest a seperate memorial to my Mum. p.s. HAPPY CHRISTMAS HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAPPY NEW YEAR HAPPY EASTER HAPPY THANKSGIVING HAPPY CHANUKKAH HAPPY EID HAPPY BONFIRE NIGHT HAPPY CHUNJIEH HAPPY CHINGMING FESTIVAL HAPPY HALLOWE'EN HAPPY NOW RUZ just my defiance...sorry if this offends anyone...
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Treshappy, The more I read through this forum, the more I am SHOCKED by how many people have had the same experience as me + my family. I always thought I was the ONLY person in my situation. My Great-Grandmother and my Great-Aunt also had JW funerals that they would NOT have wanted. (But I was too young to go, if not too young to remember them and the fact that they weren't Witnesses...about 9/10 years old). That's why I am asking these questions. Lily
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Thanks Jozabel, Mary. (Joyzabel your screen name had me laughing)

  Perhaps I sounded crazy asking about 'do we have to pretend to be JWs'. I just asked because I had this notion that you might only be allowed in the Kingdom Hall if you are a JW- just like you are only allowed in the New World if u are a JW???

  Yes Mary, you were exactly right that it has upset us to not be able to think of Granddad peaceful in heaven, and I think he himself was scaed by the thought near the end of his life. But I am not here to make a critique...

  About the service...in English churches we tend to have a mixture of readings from the Vicar (Minister), readings from the family, songs and maybe playing some music that the person liked. Will there be any hymns/readings from friends at a JW service?Is it a JW custom to wear black?

  I certainly hope no-one is rude to my Mother because she isn't a JW...that would be truly awful...

  Lily
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Thanks Candidlynuts for your message. It was really kind. I do appreciate information like yours, for example, if I am expecting it to be a 'cold' affair I can be prepared, or warn my Mum (Mom). It feels a bit like being stuck out there with no help...after all, how many people are in my position?! I've never met anyone in real life whose family are JWs but then left. Or even anyone who is a JW apart from my Grandparents (as was). About the England/U.S. differences, I think that we follow the U.S. lead here, so it will probably be quite similar. Lily
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  Can you help please? Re: JW grandfathers funeral

  by Lily888888 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i am new to this forum so sorry about any mistakes.

  i have just had the terrible news that my grandfather has passed away.

  he and my grandmother (still alive) were both jehovah's witnesses.

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  Lily888888

  Okay, just re-read my post and am adding extra info... I should really explan that my Grandparents were/are quite 'into' the religion, so I had a very quick look at other posts and have experienced problems re: blood transfusion, saying 'good luck', when the new world will come, saying the words 'Christmas/Birthday/Easter', etc. Hope this explains my position more. Lily