Grace,
I don't think the airport is very far. We landed at the San Francisco airport last year. I think it is a relatively short trip across the Golden Gate Bridge to the Golden Gate Evangelical Seminary. Someone will be able to pick you up at the airport etc. San Francisco should be nice in August.
Borgfree
here in jamaica queens new york, one of the congregations is named, rochdale congregation.
my brother-in-law went to the meeting at this congregation this past sunday and he saw that notices from the wts have been posted on the bulletin board which officially say that the wts is moving all printing operations upstate to either patterson or wallkill.
evaluating.
I may have posted this before, but if I did, here it is again.
A JW I know, visited the NY buildings a few weeks ago, she was told that NY needs the property for the coming NY Worlds Fair.
Borgfree
I agree with the other comments. Ron was one of the first ex-jws I met after leaving the WT. I will never forget him, he is really a fine person.
He published a "newsletter" for a long time that was a big help to me, I think it was called "Christian Respondant" ? or something like that.
Borgfree
i could spend many of your minutes describing how helpful this forum has been for me, suffice it to say that it's the way things should be...offer an idea and everybody else have opportunity to put it on the table too, pro or con.
my opinion is that jw's haven't realized (or have been denied) the benefits of such an appropriate arrangement that also provides the best method for discovery and growth.. my offering today is prompted by what i've found to be a recurring theme here...one that never fails to bother me.
as many witnesses "get out", too often (for me) they along with now rejecting the wts, reject many of the good things the wts tried, however horribly, to represent.
Hi Gig,
I meant to comment to you on the post above. I agree with what you say in general.
Start by eliminating the sectarian (we're saved and you're not) "religions" and various other self-righteous denominations
I wonder if a person feeling sure that they are saved can be interpreted as self-righteousness? The bible says that if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are saved. First a person needs to know who Jesus is, not who the WT told us He is but who the bible says He is, then it is necessary to except the free gift of salvation from Him. That is all scriptural.
I have been to a lot of churches but I have met only a few who acted self-righteous. There are all kinds of people wherever you go.
Thanks for your post.
Borgfree
i could spend many of your minutes describing how helpful this forum has been for me, suffice it to say that it's the way things should be...offer an idea and everybody else have opportunity to put it on the table too, pro or con.
my opinion is that jw's haven't realized (or have been denied) the benefits of such an appropriate arrangement that also provides the best method for discovery and growth.. my offering today is prompted by what i've found to be a recurring theme here...one that never fails to bother me.
as many witnesses "get out", too often (for me) they along with now rejecting the wts, reject many of the good things the wts tried, however horribly, to represent.
Hi Truthseekers2,
Anyone else where I am today?
I have been there. I have been out now for about 11years. I enjoy reading the bible all the way through each year. Radio Bible Class (RBC) has a booklet they will send you each month, it has a daily scriptural comment (something like daily text) and gives the scriptures to read each day to complete the bible in a year. This year I am using a bible my son gave me for Christmas, it has the sections for each day of the year.
I was very blessed in going to an ex-jw convention when I left the WT. I met a lot of wonderful ex-jws. I go to two or three conventions each year and always look forward to seeing those I consider real brothers and sisters.
I go to church sometimes, but do not feel God is angry with me if I do not go.
Borgfree
my name is robert, i'm from alberta canada.
i just came across this site, and i was wondering if there is a location on this site where one would go to chat with or just correspond with other x witness, or do i just do as i am now, start typing and hope someone will answer?
i will wait to hear from someone before i go and say too much.
Hi Robert E, and welcome.
I am short on time right now too, I must get ready for work.
I have a couple of quick questions though.
Do you claim to be one of the anointed? I think someone already asked that one.
If you do, where is your loyalty? to an organization? or to The Lord, Jesus Christ?
Borgfree
Edited by - borgfree on 22 January 2003 11:52:52
been a witness all my life all i see is negitivity,why.do you have nothing better to do than to type your life story on how you left the truth,who cares..im happy where i stand
Hi wpbsurf,
Glad you decided to come to the Board of Higher Education. If you stay a while, you will find that you, as a JW, are about
1st grade level in understanding your organization. Here you will get, about a college level, education on the WT.
Borgfree
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my father has told me that if i can disprove the bible on any point he will discontinue beliveing in it.. i will be the first to admit that bible theology is not my strong point so i need any help that i can get.. thanks in advance
Francois,
Here is one explanation of that scripture:
Verse 23. And he made a molten sea ,.... A large vessel made of molten brass, which, because of the great quantity of water it held, is called a sea; as it was usual with the Jews to call a large collection of waters a sea, as the sea of Tiberius and Galilee. This was made by the man of Tyre, as the pillars, by the order of Solomon, and answered to the brasen laver in the tabernacle, only larger than that; and was not only for the priests to wash their hands and feet in, but to dip upon occasion, and by the Jews {p} is expressly said to be a dipping place for the priests, see 2 Chronicles 4:6,Borgfree
ten cubits from the one brim to the other : which was the diameter of it: it was round all about; spherical or circular; not as an hemisphere, as Josephus {q}, and Procopius Gazaeus, but rather cylindrical:
and his height was five cubits ; from the bottom of it, not including the pedestal of oxen on which it stood:
and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about ; this was the circumference of it; which answers to the diameter of ten cubits, or near it, a round number being given not strictly mathematical.
(Sceptics have ridiculed the Bible for saying that the mathematical constant p is 3 instead of the more precise 3.14159. (This number is an "irrational number" and needs an infinite number digits to specify it exactly.) Two explanations for the apparent lack of precision in the measurement are given.
1) The circumference given may be for the inside circumference and the diameter may be the diameter including the thickness of the rim. This would yield a very accurate mathematical result for the inside circumference of thirty cubits. The outside circumference would be about 31.4 cubits giving a rim thickness of four inches or an hand breadth agreeing with 1 Kings 7:26.
2) In 1 Kings 7:26 we read the vessel "was wrought like the brim of a cup." That is the brim on the top of the vessel was wider than the main part of the vessel. The diameter would be given for the brim. If the brim or lip extended about four inches past the main body of the vessel then the outside circumference of the main part of the vessel would be exactly thirty cubits.
In each case the mathematical ratio for circumference of the circle is p d, where "d" is the diameter and p is the number 3.14159 ..... For a more complete discussion on this see the article by Russel Grigg. {r}. Editor.)
{p} T. Hieros, Yema, fol. 41. 1 {q} Antiqu. l. 8. c. 3. sect 5. {r} "Does the Bible say pi equals 3.0?," Russell Greg, page 24, "Ex Nihil," March-May Issue, Vol. 17. No. 2., Creation Science Foundation Ltd. Brisbane, Australia.
