Posts by borgfree

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KENTUCKY DERBY: Place your bets here

by berylblue in

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BORG?

by shamus in

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what does the term "borg" mean?

i see it posted so much.. oh yeah - nice to meet you all, too.. (duh).

borgfree

I think it was originally "B"rooklyn "ORG"anization with the Star Trek Borg meaning.

Borgfree

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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .

ymrah

borgfree

Amen,

I thought like that for a while

it ain't easy with all the contradictions in beliefs.

After much consideration I have decided that there is only one requirement for salvation (I have asked the opinion of many Christians and they have all agreed) and that is accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I think it is necessary to know who Jesus is, I don't think we can accept Him as Michael the archangel, or just another prophet, or just a good man, it is vital to know who Jesus really is, and that, by using the bible as proof.

Jesus said that He had to be raised up as the snake, that Moses made, was raised up in the wilderness. The requirement for the Jews to have their lives saved, at that time, was to go to that snake and look at it, then they would not die. There were no added requirements there, such as, what path you took to the snake, what you were to wear, what tribe you were a member of, etc., just go, look at the snake, and you would live.

I think it is clear, and I think the bible backs it up, that Jesus was using that example to show how we would get salvation, by looking to Him.

All of the other doctrinal arguments are fine, for discussion, and maybe for better understanding, but are not a requirement for salvation. Not like the JWs. We can discuss scriptural questions, we can disagree, but, those things do not effect our salvation. Salvation is one thing, Jesus Christ.

So, this life that we have is worth enjoying it every second, love God to the best of your ability and do goods to your neighbor.

I agree totally. I had never been so happy and enjoyed every moment of my life as I have since I became a Christian.

Borgfree

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born again Christians

by ymrah in

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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .

ymrah

borgfree

I think that some are misunderstanding the "born again" idea, some have already been trying to point out that it is not a religion, you can be a born again Christian and be in almost any church. I could attend the Kingdom Hall if I chose, it wouldn't make sense, but I could do that and still be a born again Christian. I would still be in the family of God, that, is my true congregation, church.

My contract, because I cannot think of a better word, is between my Lord and me, that is a done deal, to quote Dan Hall. I am saved because of what my Lord has already done, and my salvation is already done. I see no benefit in attending a Kingdom Hall or a Mormon Temple or many other places where they do not believe or teach as I believe, but I could, and still be a born again Christian.

To accept many teachings that do not agree with what my Lord taught would be ridiculous, how could I possibly claim to be a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ, and at the same time accept teachings that He did not accept, or teach in any way?

Some get upset about the beliefs of Christians, they think Christians should be willing to believe that there are many ways to salvation, or, to God, but, Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, NO ONE gets to the Father EXCEPT THROUGH ME" how could a Christian believe there are MANY ways to God and still claim to be Christian?

If we do not accept the teachings of the Christ and do our best to spread those teachings I do not understand how, or why, we would claim to be Christian.

As to what I said earlier in this post, I could attend a Kingdom Hall or anyplace else, and not be failing as a Christian, as long as I did not compromise my Christian beliefs.

Borgfree

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Insider reviews of WT publications allowed?

by BornFree in

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ok so i've never been a jw, so i don't have insider experience with this, so let me know what you think.... an aquaintance of mine is an ms in his local congregation, and he recently told me about a "review" that he did of a newly published wt brochure (i don't recall exactly which brochure it was as there are so many stinking borchures...and who cares anyway).

i asked him what the purpose was of "reviewing" the thing, and he told me that the wt always asks for input on their new material.

so he read the brochure, i.e.

borgfree

I am not sure Bornfree, but I would guess, the WT knows many JWs will not read that brochure, they get the same ole bs over and over, so many will just assume that they have already read the material, so, the WT wants to cram it down their throats.

Borgfree

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born again Christians

by ymrah in

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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .

ymrah

borgfree

The Born Again Christians believe everyone else is going to die.

I really do not understand why some think that if you choose not to accept the gift of life from God, that it is somehow unfair and a horrible atrocity. Every human that has ever lived has died, as far as anyone knows.

The gift of life is offered free to everyone, Christ paid for that gift. If we choose to say, as some have, that if there is a God, He is vicious and they want nothing to do with Him, that is their choice, so, if they spend eternity separated from Him how is that unfair or unjust?

The bible only takes us to a certain point into the future, it does not give us answers to everything that the future has in store. For example, Christians believe, as the bible states, that we will be kings and priests. If every living human will be in heaven, who would we be kings and priests to?

There are different theories about who will be on this earth or another earth and I do not know anyone who knows that answer for sure.

I think we have seen the wonderful works of our God for our entire lives, creation, the universe, etc. why cannot we just trust in the God, who is love, to be just and fair?

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born again Christians

by ymrah in

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as i'm having some serious differences with some friends about the born again attitude i would like to get some information on their origins, practices and what they actually believe help me somone please .

ymrah

borgfree

I consider myself a born again Christian. To me, salvation depends on one thing, accepting the free gift from our Lord and giving our lives to Him. All other matters are not salvation issues.

I am like Little Toe on the hell fire subject, I do not know whether it is literal or not, but I do believe that whatever it is, it is an eternal separation from God, and that cannot be good.

I think that church attendance is not a salvation issue. As the bible says, the purpose is to build one another up, to do fine works, and to encourage each other. So, church attendance is for our benefit.

If I choose to attend a church then I want to contribute to the expenses of the church, building expenses, ministry expenses, charities, etc., etc. If I choose not to contribute, that is my business.

There is much freedom in being a Christian. I will never let any group or individual enslave me again, with the exception of our Lord of course. My salvation and my worship is between my Lord and me, everything else is extra.

Borgfree

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Controversial 'R.A.V.E. Act' passed in the US

by ignored_one in

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i hope this is a belated april fool.. .

ignored one.

borgfree

Recently, Senator Joe Biden has forced a controversial legislation through both houses of Congress as an attachment to an unrelated child abduction bill.

Biden ( Biden, Joseph - (D - DE) )

Biden is a Democrat, how can he force anything through both houses of Congress? Especially when

Instead, it took 10 months, a change of power in the United States Senate,

What did a change of power have to do with it, when it is a Democrat that is said to "force" it through both houses?

I also noted some bias? just maybe?

examples:

Senator Joe Biden has forced

Senator Joe Biden originally introduced the “R.A.V.E. Act

Congress. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX)

. Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC)

and Senator Biden reintroduced

Why are only the Republicans followed by their party designations?

I do not know if there is any truth to this story or not, but it is obvious the article is biased.

For example, the word "rave" was removed from the version of the bill attached to the AMBER Alert. Eliminating such blatant discrimination is a victory for our continued freedom of speech.

Maybe I am just too far into a previous generation, but, where on earth is any discrimination shown in this bill, even if it is real?

Borgfree

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Iraqi expatriates return to battle U.S.

by Trauma_Hound in

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0326war-jordan26.html iraqi expatriates return to battle u.s.

margaret coker .

cox news service.

borgfree

Realist,

Do I understand what you are saying, correctly?

After suffering a hugh blow to his military forces and equipment during the last gulf war, Saddam left everything as is, he did not bother to replace his troops and/or equipment?

where is this greatly expanded military now?

Have you been watching the news programs. How about all of the reports about the "well trained, "fierce fighting" Republican Guard with several divisions around Baghdad, and in Basrah and other cities?

the al samud missiles were not imported and it is very questionable whether they violate the agreement in the first place

Are you saying that Saddam broke NO cease fire agreements with the UN?

If the missiles were manufactured in Iraq, the engines were still smuggled into Iraq. Remember, his agreement was to disarm.

The missiles questionable? to whom? The experts sent in with the ~~clowns~~ inspectors agreed they violated the agreements and ordered them destroyed.

who says the night vision equipment is in violation of the treaty?

If night vision equipment, is considered military equipment, then I think the order for him to disarm would cover such advanced items.

why would saddam care if the embargo is actually helping him?

On the one hand you say the lack of food and medicine is the fault of the UN or rather, the US, then on the other hand you admit Saddam couldn't care less about getting those needs for his own people.

I won't bother to argue with the statements from some of the members of the UN. It is very obvious to many people, that the UN has become a power for third world countries to attempt to control and maybe even overthrow the US. Some of the treaties proposed there, thankfully not signed by the US, were designed to control only the US, they had little or no effect on most of the member countries.

Borgfree

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What should we reply when invited to memorial?

by bluesapphire in

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when my mil invites my husband to the memorial he plans on saying, "well i've already been to the memorial before.

if you've been there once, there's no need to go again since the talk is the same mumbo-jumbo year after year and i'm not anointed anyway.".

what do you plan on saying or have you said?

borgfree

I was asked by a person at work tonight to go to the memorial. I told her if I went I would sit beside her and I would be taking the bread and wine. She said that would be my decision. I said , but you would be embarrassed, she admitted she would.

I told her there was no way I would pass the bread and wine without partaking, that I would not reject our Lord by just passing the emblems. She dropped the subject.

Borgfree