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  September 11, 1971

  by garybuss in

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  september 11, 1971 nancy and i were married in fairmont minnesota by a chevy auto mechanic in the basement of a hardware store.

  he gave us some very good advise, change your oil every three thousand miles, and rotate your tires every six thousand miles and flush your radiator once a year.

  september 11, 2001, was our 30th year anniversary and we had planned to go out to dinner to celebrate.

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  borgfree

  Happy anniversary Gary and Mrs. Gary.

  I hope you have a wonderful weekend with the family.

  Borgfree
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  Remembering September 11, 2001

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  remembering 9-11-01:.

  i encourage everyone who wants to, just to post their own personal memories and experiences of 9-11-01 here.. also, here are a few things you may want to look at:.

  http://september11th.com/silence.htm.

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  Yerusalyim,

  This is not meant to be critical, but rather to explain my feelings and maybe the feelings of others when we see the pictures of those buildings.

  The buildings, or the pictures of the buildings, remind me of the 3000+ who died that day. To me they stand for the plane load of people who died in the field in Pennsylvania. They stand for the plane load of people who died when the terrorists crashed into the Pentagon and they stand for the two planes with the innocent people who crashed into the two towers. They also, to me, represent all of the ones in all of the buildings and on the ground who died that day at the hands of those evil people.

  Besides that, the buildings, to me, represent a cowardly attack from jealous, hateful, evil people on the symbols of American power, success, and prosperity. The towers were about our financial strength and the pride of our country in our freedom and our ability to do anything we decided we wanted to accomplish. They represent the total tragedy, and the resolve that followed, of the American people, to punish evil people who would dare to do such a despicable deed and to do our best to see that such evil people never again succeed in carrying out another such act.

  The pictures of the buildings no longer are just pictures of buildings, to me, they are like a monument to all of the above.

  Just my thoughts.

  Borgfree
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  Remembering September 11th..........2 years on.

  by ScoobySnax in

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  through brutality, comes peace.

  through darkness, comes light.

  through hatefulness, comes love.

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  NEW JW PEDOPHILE POLL - Requested by Attorney

  by Amazing in

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  hi everyone: after discussing this with the attrorney, we decided to conduct a new poll to assure we are able to contact newer members to the board, continue to validate the analysis being prepared, and to seek leads for new cases.

  please respond if you have not participated in this poll before.

  1. if you know of any jw molesters in any country of the world, please state how many.

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  borgfree

  I know of (2) molesters, both in the state of Ohio, both in Greenville. One was convicted of molesting his own child. The other, I was told, was a MS when he molested a child, he later molested at least 2 more. Each time he was given reproof. Later he moved to another city in Ohio and I have no further information on him.

  Borgfree

  ps: I told people for years that I did not know of a molesting case, personally. One day, while thinking about the molester mentioned above, I realized that I did, indeed, know of a case. I wonder how many of us might "surpress" some memories that, at the time, was not favorable to the WT.
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  I've heard all about you!

  by SM62 in

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  i have heard about this forum from someone, but i won't say who as i don't want to expose them.

  i am in the process of evaluating my life as a jw.

  it has been a pretty sad life - without a real feeling of 'belonging'.

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  borgfree

  Hi Terri and welcome. You asked:

  I have been a JW for approx 14 years - although when do you all count from? When you started studying? When you got baptised?

  I quit going by the rules the WT made up. I was born into the religion and never knew any other bible teachings. The WT governed my whole life from the time I was born, so, I count the time I was in that org. from birth till I left. (54 years) I do not care what standards they use. It is my choice. Be free!

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  Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

  by patio34 in

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  this is part of a fundamentalist "war" on women's rights, in my opinion.

  i'm trying to get the word out to as many people as i can.

  this just came across my screen.

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  No problem Berylblue, my feelings are ok.

  Borg....what about all the dead American and Iraqi soldiers, though?

  That is, of course, a tough one, we would like to fight wars without anyone getting hurt, it just cannot be done. As several government officials have said, we would rather fight the terrorists over there, than in the streets of the US.

  Someone, on the radio this week, made the comment, that we are in a third world war, one that started September 11, when we were attacked by terrorists, they, by their act, declared war on us, and we cannot stop until we defeat them, wherever they hide. The deaths of our servicemen are tragic, but, unfortunately necessary.

  Borgfree
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  Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

  by patio34 in

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  this is part of a fundamentalist "war" on women's rights, in my opinion.

  i'm trying to get the word out to as many people as i can.

  this just came across my screen.

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  Patio34,

  To try to impose the rigidity of no birth control unless you're married would mess up so many women's lives.

  Actually they do the same thing to men, it's just done in a different way. Men who choose not to use birth control will be forced to pay about 1/4 of their income for the next 18 years.

  Borgfree
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  Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

  by patio34 in

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  this is part of a fundamentalist "war" on women's rights, in my opinion.

  i'm trying to get the word out to as many people as i can.

  this just came across my screen.

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  Berylblue,

  So non-Christians are GODLESS?

  In my hurry I used a poor choice of words. I should have said believers as apposed to non-believers, but there are some believers who would change this country into a dictatorship, so I would not include all religions. I do not believe Bush has, or would ever have, any intentions of turning this country into a theocracy.

  He's a dangerous idiot...to the point of being criminal.

  I have no idea where you would get such an opinion. I have seen only good from the current President, certainly nothing like the last one.

  Borgfree
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  Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

  by patio34 in

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  this is part of a fundamentalist "war" on women's rights, in my opinion.

  i'm trying to get the word out to as many people as i can.

  this just came across my screen.

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  Patio34,

  I'm not a supporter of abortion, but believe it's not the government's business to make such rulings.

  I don't think I would disagree with you on that, but the socialist/liberal side has changed laws over the years that were in effect for a very long time, I do not necessarily agree with their methods either.

  That is unless the fundamentalists care so much about the children that they'll take them and raise them.

  I think we have all been doing that for many years now. Irresponsible people keep having babies and by our tax dollars we pay for them, from the cradle to the grave. The answer is to educate and/or force the ones who have the children to pay the cost for them. I do not believe they should have the option to get pregnant, whenever they please, and then use abortion as a birth control method. I think that is murder, however you look at it.

  especially on a religious basis.

  Why should a persons religious beliefs be any less important than an atheists, or any other persons beliefs? I think Christian standards are just as valid as anyone else's.

  Now that Christian beliefs are considered taboo in this country, are we so much better off than we were 50 years ago, when Christian standards were the rule?

  but that does not mean the laws of the land should be based on that faith.

  What's so bad about that? What standards should be used in making laws? None? I think that is where we are heading.
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  Alert: Women and Men who Care!!

  by patio34 in

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  this is part of a fundamentalist "war" on women's rights, in my opinion.

  i'm trying to get the word out to as many people as i can.

  this just came across my screen.

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  Jst2laws,

  When a person makes moral judgments of others based on their conservative interpretation of the Bible or any other holy book you have a "dangerous and inappropriate candidate".

  I can understand why you think that way. I do think, however, that our country has a history of very religious men being in office. Some say that our nation has never been a Christian nation, but I think history shows that it has been, from the start. My point is, that although there were always men of faith and especially Christian men in office, our country has done pretty good over the years.

  I personally would prefer, anytime, a Christian in office rather than a Godless man.

  Waiting,

  Who says he's "totally qualified".............the ones who agree with him? You're argument is flawed, borg.

  To be honest I do not know the man or his qualifications, but I do know something about the man who appointed him. I like George Bush, I trust his decisions and appointments. I remember a former President who appointed some of the most untrustworthy people you could imagine.

  Borgfree