Casually mention that in the current economic climate only an idiot would give up a good job and move
to parts unknown in hopes of finding another good job.
so i was talking to a substitute co, he and his wife recently returned from "the school for christian couples" .
anyways this couple has delayed having children in hopes of entering the circuit work, and have been sub coing for a couple years.
they both have well paying, good jobs.
Casually mention that in the current economic climate only an idiot would give up a good job and move
to parts unknown in hopes of finding another good job.
i'm always hopeful but mostly doubtful that they will get out of her..
I think the July 15, 2013 Watchtower may cause them to think hard when it is studied at the hall.
i guess i'm new here.
born in and an ms. things just hasn't been making sense the more i think about it.
i'm starting to get suspicious.
Suspicious asks:
Do most here feel God exists? What's your guys view of the bible?
I believe that God exists.
I believe that the bible is God's message to humans in an effort to reconcile our relation with him.
i do not have a facebook account but my wife does.
never posted on face book.
tonite we received notifcation from.
Befriend her jam.
Then post lnks to this site and jwfacts so she can learn TTATT.
.....after 8 years of us being disfellowshipped.
the made contact through my aunt who is still 'in' - as in she has faded but is not disfellowshipped and will pop to a meeting now and again - she does this for my grans' sake.. the contact was from my aunt and uncle (he's an elder) these were the 2 witnesses used against me in my judicial case.
they contacted my aunt and said to forward the message onto us.
Are we not already dead to them? Yes.
Have we not been labeled apostate by them? Yes.
Have we not been shunned by them? Yes.
Do you owe them any assistance? No.
Let them take care of their own.
a friend of mine and i had a huge blow out about the jw religion.
he and i were friends before either one of us were jw's.
in fact, i took him to his first meeting.
At least he's still talking with you, wha happened? which is more than I can say for a former
friend of over 30 years.
He and I were friends before either one of us were baptized.
I had a similar experience about blood with him.
It was the last time we talked, almost 10 years ago.
He said that it didn't matter if JW's die for refusing blood because
Jehoobie will resurrect them anyway.
I just bit my tongue and shook my head.
You just can't fix stupidity.
as some of you know several weeks ago i was disfellowshipped for several reasons, but primarily my thoughts on the organization.
last night i had a very interesting conversations with my wife after she came back from the meeting and several things jumped out at me that made see even more clearly how sick this religion is.
first of all, several months ago we attended a wedding of a friend.
No more sex for Freeof1914.
in another thread, what's new for 2013 - lo nuevo de 2013, jwn member, oppostate, posted news of dc releases at this year's district conventions.
among the releases was this: .
a new dvd for 2013: the return of the prodigal son.
Just keeping it real.
i can't get into much detail, but i might have been caught doing something natural and fun that the gb would have a fit over.
(i'm not sure at this point if i was seen).
the elders have called a meeting of the entire body tonight, which is strange since they usually meet on weekends.. i've been worrying and sweating like crazy since then, which i think is the programmed jw guilt switch in my mind going off like crazy.. what i want to know is:.
Someone commits a sin that may turn out not to be a sin a few years from now.
in another thread, what's new for 2013 - lo nuevo de 2013, jwn member, oppostate, posted news of dc releases at this year's district conventions.
among the releases was this: .
a new dvd for 2013: the return of the prodigal son.
The following is a parable about the "JW Prodigal Son"
The young JW said to one of the elders, "Elder, I have doubts about the Governing Body." So the elder convened a judicial committee and they disfellowshipped him.
Not long after that, the younger JW was not allowed to talk to his JW family anymore and had to move out of their home. The job he had with another JW was soon terminated and he was left on his own. Since he had no skills—his religion wouldn't allow him any higher education—and he had no friends—his religion didn't allow him to associate with anyone who wasn't a JW—he began to think back on what he had before. Although he did not really believe in the religion, he decided he would return so at least he could once again associate with people, have employment, and feel as though he was not abandoned.
When he confessed the error of his ways, the young JW said to the elder, "Elder, I have sinned against the Watchtower and against the governing body. I am no longer worthy to be called a JW," only then was he allowed to return to the meetings in the hope of rejoining his family and former so-called friends. He could not talk to anyone except for the spiritually strong elders and his father who now began to study with him even though he had heard the same stuff hundreds of times before. He played the game and one day was reinstated to the joy of everyone who could now talk to him and tell him them missed him even though he was there all the time.
The other young JW's who had continued with their monotonous routine of Watchtower worship while he was gone looked scornfully at the returnee because he had not had to do all of the service they did. They kept their distance from him as they viewed him as still contaminated and would never fully be one of them again.
The young JW slowly worked his way back to earning his privileges. His going through the motions of being in the "truth" was enough to satisfy his family and the elders.
Now he frequents Internet sites to find support for his situation because he knows the Watchtower is a lie but he still wants to associate with his family.