Does she know about the recent child abuse cases that the cult has lost?
How about the UN 'library' card?
What does she think about the new 'donation' arrangement?
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Wife just found out I won't be attending the Memorial this year!
by FadeToBlack inmy wife is staying with 'friends' out of town recovering from surgery on her foot.
i called to see how she was healing up and mentioned that i hope she gets back on her feet before i leave for the states to visit family (all non-witness) in april.
i begged her to postpone this surgery until i got back, but she did not forsee any problems.we will see.. anyway, it dawned on her that i won't be here to attend the memorial and she said: you are probably happy about that.
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Neanderthal man
by scary21 inmy ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
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scary21:
My ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the WT.
A couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) I brought up the subject of the Neanderthals and how we all have their DNA except Africans ( the ones that never left Africa )
He said Neanderthals are apes and not humans and JW's do not teach that they are humans.Jehovah's Witnesses do teach that the Neanderthals were human:
Life—How Did It Get Here? By Evolution or by Creation? (1985 WTBTS)
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Paragraph 34
“Ape-Men”—What Were They?
Neanderthal man (named after the Neander district in Germany where the first fossil was found) was undoubtedly human. At first he was pictured as bent over, stupid looking, hairy and apelike. Now it is known that this mistaken reconstruction was based on a fossil skeleton badly deformed by disease. Since then, many Neanderthal fossils have been found, confirming that he was not much different from modern humans.
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Health care proxy
by dissonance_resolved ini wanted to get some input on how to handle the health proxy issue going forward.
i'm a fader, inactive now for about two years.
my husband and family are all still in.
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Follow the rules and have the proxy done just the way THEY want it done.
A day or so later, download a copy of your state's Advance Directive Form or ask your primary care physician for one.
Fill it out and sign and date it in the presence of 2 witnesses and a Notary Public. Have the Notary Public affix his or her seal on the document. Make at least 3 copies (one for each witness and one for yourself) and ask your primary care physician to place the original in your patient file.
In the event that you require a medical procedure not sanctioned by the Jehovah's Witnesses your primary care physician will be able to circumvent any attempt by your husband, the HLC (Hospital Liaison Committee) or anyone else whose wishes conflict with yours.
Make sure that you carry your primary care physician's contact information in your wallet at all times just in case you are involved in an accident which incapacitates your ability to make your wishes known.
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Went to a viewing at a Catholic Church...not what I expected
by PaintedToeNail ina child in my daughter's class lost his mother very recently.
we went to the viewing last night at the local catholic church.
in the foyer area there was a bulletin board with pamphlets regarding child sex abuse, including by the church, in both english and spanish.
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The Watchtower Society deliberately lied to us about churches and we believed them because we didn't know any better.
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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?
by stevepill ini have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?
will she start go back once we are married?
(i'm a non jw)
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I did say that to her and she said she may need to take them on odd occasion of she goes back, but doesn't want to be told she can't take them.
Thank you for all you comments , I love this women very much and she means the world to me but she says she cannot guarantee she won't go back.
She just told you that she is going to go back and she will take your children with her no matter how you feel about it.I agree with what your saying, she does clam up when I ask her questions about her faith as she feels if she says something negative then I will hold it against her, her family are all in it but she is the black sheep of the family and they now keep their distance because she's not doing what she should be doing, they have not contacted her since last July!
She Still believes the Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth and nothing you tell her or show her will change her mind.just want to save from this craziness!
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By all means pioneer because the end is imminent and you will never again get another opportunity to vindicate Jehover's name.
Pioneering is very fulfilling and by doing so you will be the first to hear about the latest dirt on your weaker brothers and sisters.
if you are a male, pioneering will open up many doors, including the privilege of sitting on judicial committees and playing God with sinful Jehovah's Witnesses.
On perk is that you will be able to condemn them to eternal death if they piss you off.
On the other hand, the only things college can offer is a decent job with a good salary which will enable you to retire comfortably and adequately support your family.
Turn in your Application for Pioneer service today.
Don't wait until it's too late!
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Paradise & the Jehovah's Witnesses
by Honesty injehovah's witnesses are taught that it will be joy to be around a lion or other such animal without fear in paradise:.
it truly will be paradise restored.
what of the joy to be around a lion or other such animal without fear?
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Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that it will be joy to be around a lion or other such animal without fear in paradise:
It truly will be Paradise restored. What of the joy to be around a lion or other such animal without fear? We do not have to begin describing that, for all of us have relished the scene already.
2/15/96 Washtowel
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Their version of paradise is a lie:
There will be no lion there,
and no vicious beast will go up on it;
they will not be found there.
Isaiah 35:9
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Elders Starting To Poke Around... Advice?
by Garrett inas many of you know, i've been out of the organization for about a month now.
the elders haven't shown an interest in my absence until now.
today, i have received phone calls from two elders as well as a friend.
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Do not mention any doubts or concerns about the organization, the faithless 7 or the crazy doctrines to anyone.
Those doubts and concerns will be used against you and eventually will lead to the LOYALTY QUESTION.
"Do you STILL believe that Jehovah is using the faithful slave and His organization?"
The less they know, the better off you are.
A little over 10 years ago I experienced their twisted version of love when I mentioned my doubts and concerns about the organization, the faithless slavers and their crazy doctrines.
I was set out on the curb for the garbage man with everyone else who woke up to their scam.
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Jw wedding talk giving questionable advice as usual
by hoser ini recently went to a wedding and listened to the wedding talk at the kingdom hall the couple had both heard the talk before as they were both married in kingdom halls before.
this is his second time and her third.
the advice given.
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It blew my mind when I started attending one of satan's churches and learned that the majority of its members had been married one time, some for more than 50 years and most of the others who had been married twice had lost a spouse in death.
I only know 3 couples who had remarried after divorce and they weren't Christians when it happened.
I believe that most JW's are ill-equipped to be good marriage mates due to what they learn about marriage from magazines, books and kingdom hall meetings.
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Holidays?
by Garrett innot sure where to post this, so i posted here.
i was wondering, since your coming out of the organization, have any of you decided to start celebrating certain holidays?.
thanks, peace and love.
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I left 10 years ago and have been celebrating birthdays, Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving and freedom from the cult ever since.