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  New Light - I've figured it out (and it's mine so don't you 'tates steal my royalties or MY followers - they belong to me [evil maniacal laughter] )

  by berrygerry in

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  so, we continue to face mounting challenges with 607 vs 587 (20 year differential), and the generation dying out.. therefore, after a personal (420 free - honest) research and revelation, it would appear that 587 is the correct launch date.. with respect to the 7 times, russell had been influenced by john a. brown into using a year of 360 days, when prescience would most surely indicate that at the time of discovery (2014) one would use the number of days of that respective calendar, i.e.. 365 1/4 days, an additional 5.25 days per year.. so, 7 x 5.25 = 36.75, which, using the biblical principle of rounding down, is 36 years.

  (a day for a year).. adding the 20 year differential to the 36 years now gives us 56 years, which when added to 1914 ce, brings us to 1970 ce.. when we ask the god google, the significance of 1970, it tells us that earth day began 4/22/1970 (note not 4/20).. and who came to the aid of the woman (rev.

  was it not the earth?.

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  'tates

  Hilarious! That is going in the next revision of the Apostate Dictionary.
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  Questions from Readers: Is Memorial Day appropriate for Christians?

  by rebel8 in

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  questions from readers.

  "is it appropriate for a christian to celebrate memorial day in light of its past pagan roots?".

  many conscientious ones among jehovah's people today have wondered if christians should honor dead people on memorial day, in view of the fact that evidently jehovah judged them worthy of death.. first let us consider what most scholars agree is the original greek for the term "memorial day", meaning literally "a contemporary holiday to honor those who died by the sword.

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  QUESTIONS FROM READERS

  "Is it appropriate for a Christian to celebrate Memorial Day in light of its past pagan roots?"

  Many conscientious ones among Jehovah's people today have wondered if Christians should honor dead people on Memorial Day, in view of the fact that evidently Jehovah judged them worthy of death.

  First let us consider what most scholars agree is the original Greek for the term "Memorial Day", meaning literally "a contemporary holiday to honor those who died by the sword." A faithful servant of Jehovah would quickly notice that the nature of a veteran is ungodly. Clearly, it is acceptable for modern-day Christians to benefit from the sacrifice of veterans—such as living in areas where peace is maintained by military, law enforcement, and other worldly institutions—while it is not acceptable to appreciate it.

  Jehovah, in His Infinite Wisdom, authorized and committed murder for appropriate things, like hitting your dad, being in the wrong religion, not being a virgin on your wedding night, laughing at old people, fornication, or just killing babies for fun. (Deuteronomy 17:12; Exodus 22:17; Leviticus 20:13; Leviticus 20:27; Exodus 21:15; Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9; Leviticus 20:10; Leviticus 21:9; Exodus 22:19; Chronicles 15:12-13; Zechariah 13:3; Deuteronomy 13:13-19; Deuteronomy 22:20-21; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5; Leviticus 24:10-16; Deuteronomy 13:1-5; Deuteronomy 18:20-22; Romans 1:24-32; Numbers 1:48-51; Exodus 31:12-15; 2 Kings 2:23-24; 1Samuel 6:19-20; 1 Kings 20:35-36; 2 Samuel 6:3-7; Isaiah 14:21 NAB; Hosea 9:11-16; Ezekiel 9:5-7; Exodus 12:29-30; Jeremiah 51:20-26; Leviticus 26:21-22; Isaiah 13:15-18; Judges 15:14-15; Acts 5:1-11; 1 Samuel 15:2-3; Jeremiah 48:10; Joshua 19:47; Jeremiah 15:1-4; Ezekiel 35:7-9; Exodus 23:23; Joshua 8:1-29; Joshua 6:20-21; 1 Kings 14:9-16; Judges 20:48; 2 Kings 19:35; Exodus 32:26-29; Joshua 7:19-26; Numbers 25:1-9; 1 Kings 18:36-40 ;Jeremiah 50:21;Judges 18:27-29)

  Military personnel carry the sword today for such unapproved reasons like enforcing basic human rights—a reason never approved by Jehovah.

  Furthermore, let us consider if Jehovah approves of honoring the dead, as it were, let the reader use discernment.

  The practice of remembering our fallen ones once a year is not mentioned in the Bible. If it was important for Christians to do, Jehovah would have mentioned it, don’t you think? The absence of Memorial Day in the Bible clearly means we should not do it. To use an illustration™, we do not use computers, printing presses, automobiles, etc., because those practices are not mentioned in the Bible.

  The only annual memorial of death approved is the somber observance of Jesus' sacrifice.

  Jehovah’s One and Only True People ™ were given New Light TM almost 100 years ago, that creature worship, like Memorial Day, is Pagan and not pleasing to Jehovah. (Yearbook 1975 p.147)

  Watchtower 1951 Oct 1 p.607 stated, “Some Bible commentators suggest that birthday celebrations may have had their origin in the ‘notion of the immortality of the soul’." Surely, brothers, Memorial Day has similar evil origins, and our Bible-trained consciences™ will not allow us to participate in things like barbecues, parades, spending relaxing times with our families, and visiting gravesites.

  Consider the implications of the barbecue. As we learned in the 1970s, worldly companies hid blood in hot dogs to infect Jehovah’s people with demonic molecules. Often, dishes called “deviled eggs” and “devil’s food cake” are served as well. Is it appropriate to have an entire celebration centering around this Satanic food? Would we not be showing Satan we are willing to allow his minions into our heart, opening the door to demonic possession?

  Worldly employers often force employees to take Memorial Day off. Faithful Christians today spend days like this in field service, studying with their families, playing Bible games at get-togethers, or personal study.
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  Head coverings for women

  by Comatose in

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  my mom used to throw a paper napkin on her head when forcing us to study after i was baptised.

  i've seen scarves, and shawls, and a very few hats.. isn't using a napkin on your head just the same as not bothering?

  what a dumb rule too.

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  I've seen it worse than not bothering.

  Used napkins.
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  Would blood mgmt improvements have been made without firm stand of JW's

  by berrygerry in

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  2. medical

  http://o.canada.com/news/national/blood-transfusions.

  thoughts?.

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  Where are the sources in that article proving dubs were "onto something"? I've never heard any sort of actual evidence that dubs "do better after nonblood surgery". Some people have claimed that, including that wacko at that noblood site, and when I looked up the references they did not contain evidence.

  Let's remember, dubs encouraged blood transfusions in their literature until around the 1940s. Then suddenly the cult leaders craved a novel way to set their members apart, make them exclusive.

  And this they found in blood. NOT because of any medical "knowledge". Because of New Light in their religious doctrine. They weren't "onto" anything. Their religious teaching happened to have a few unintended side effects, good and deadly.

  Even in the 1970s when Hepatitis was being transmitted to millions, or in the 1980s when HIV was doing the same thing, did the dubs ever say you shouldn't take blood because of those things. They only claimed it after the fact, after science identified those viruses.

  Over the centuries, they made a bunch of BS claims exaggerating the risks of blood and lying about the benefits.

  mmkay. You can read more in a publication by Kerry Louderback-Wood, Jehovah's Witnesses and Blood: The Tort of Misrepresentation. (I think I got the title right.)

  Vietnam and our last dumb wars made it necessary to treat combat soldiers with something quicker, better? then BT.

  Good point. This is me. The last few nonblood products that went on the market to treat bleeds were developed due to military needs. If jehooplas were really catalysts for this sort of thing, why only nonblood surgery and not nonblood products to treat bleeding?
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  Awful experience: I threw my WT library out!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  yes, i threw my wt library out: my recycle bin was full.

  even if i had imagined this experience to be similar to a prisoner getting rid of his chains, this was not so.. instead, it brought up all the memories i had shared with my family where we were excited about the release of the revelation book; the clear feeling of ultimate knowledge when we showed the live forever book, the questions i had practiced with my family in the organized book, my cousins who got baptized as well.

  somehow, all i could think of was only the good memories i had shared with my family and almost cried about it.. and then, i started to think of the division, the hatred and the pain that became prevalent in my family as some were disfellowshipped and thus, ostracized.

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  The high control nature of the org is to deliberately highlight only positive things about itself in the memories of members. Sometimes it works.

  Not your fault.
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  New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help

  by jnjburkett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.

  i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.

  we do about 2 bible studies a week.

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  There are jws who do not know about the Y restriction.

  And this lady is STUDYING. Jeez people, calling her names?

  OP, please keep asking your questions and don't be discouraged by the way you were treated. Many of us have been terribly abused and manipulated by this religion, and we're bitter. Also, there have been many fakers on this site trying to stir up trouble, so if anyone says something a slightly bit off-center, they tend to get jumped on.

  Keep thinking, keep your inquisitiveness. You're on the right track.
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  New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help

  by jnjburkett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.

  i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.

  we do about 2 bible studies a week.

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  There is no "happy medium" on anything in the JW religion. You can verify this with the people you're studying with.

  Revelation 3:16

  So because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of my mouth.

  Revelation — Its Grand Climax at Hand p.72

  Christendom's religionists were lukewarm to an appalling degree. Instead of welcoming our Lord's return in 1914*, her clergy got embroiled in the slaughter of World War I, in which 24 of the 28 contending nations claimed to be Christian. How great their bloodguilt! During World War II, which was also fought largely in Christendom, false religion's sins again "massed together clear up to heaven." (Revelation 18:5)

  *FYI, the 1914 doctrine has been totally changed since this was published.
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  One thing about this site that bothers me

  by keyser soze in

  1. jw
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  the constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.

  but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.

  one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.

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  ITA with the OP.

  I do believe though, when we're talking about window washers giving people false and harmful legal, medical, psychological and marital advice, then it's appropriate to call them a derogatory term that refers to their arrogant pursuit of these acts despite a total lack of qualifications.
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  They are going to charge members monthly fees now! Society Tyranny

  by MysticMage in

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  2. experiences

  well there you have it folks.

  they have passed around pieces of paper for each publisher to write.

  down how much they are willing to give the society every month for their entire lives!.

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  Still giving each person a slip of paper and telling them to think about how much they can give per month is still a form of control and power trip. I don't take kindly to anyone telling me what to do. And they messed up big time by pulling this stunt.

  Agreed, and it's the sort of thing the Borg has poked fun at other churches for doing, for over 100 yrs, IIRC.

  Asking people to pledge for a monthly voluntary donation is not charging anything, nor is it a fee.

  I think it's important to be accurate when we're venting.
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  First Post - Emotionally Torn

  by scaredtospeak in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.

  i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .

  i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.

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  I just want to know that someone out there has been through something like this and that maybe all this anguish and depression and feeling hopeless will go away.

  Of course, there are many of us.

  It will go away over time.

  This guilt is not coming from your parents anymore. It's coming from inside you. You were brainwashed (not a pretty word, but it's true) to feel this way. And now you need to unbrainwash yourself.

  Your parents' behavior may never change, but your reaction to it can.