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  The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.

  by truthwillsetyoufree in

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  please spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.

  i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.

  every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.

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  villagegirl, wow, that is so not compassionate or nice.
  
  Perhaps my biggest mistake when two elders met with me at home to question me about whether I was unapologetically gay was to ask them if they wanted me to give them full-body massages before we began the discussion.
  
  steve2, did you really say that?! lol
  
  whether I had ever had sex with animals.
  
  omg
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  The Normal Heart (movie)

  by rebel8 in

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  finally got the guts to watch it last night.

  it was so heartbreaking.. i was a partially brainwashed teenager when the story depicted in the movie happened, a few hundred miles away.

  i remember the advocates' angry outbursts on tv and the dying men in hospital beds, holding hands.. being a sheltered jw, i had no exposure to homosexuality and only the twisted teachings of the wts to taint my views.

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  Ok, so I have been really deep in thought about this movie and why it affected me so much. Here's what I figured out, in case anyone is still reading this.

  I don't know why I need to talk about this but it is bothering me, so here goes.

  In the 80s I was a jw teen with hemophilia in NY, where the AIDS crisis essentially began in the US. I had not had my medicine for a long time because of dubbery.

  Once news came out about AIDS, the dubs practically tripped over themselves jumping for joy, that jehoopla was vindicated. I remember that being said at the conventions and the thunderous applause. It was like when he told the jews to bury their poop--he had his reason and you should follow it by faith even before science tells you why.

  Everyone expected me to be gloating over this more than most, because I had risked more by not taking blood. Barf. Instead I just found that attitude despicable.

  I was in the 4H Club, as they called it, and the dubs pretty much thought all of us were evil. Haitians because of voodoo, homosexuals, heroin addicts, and hemophiliacs because the root of the word means "like blood" and jehovah hates people who like blood.

  My peers were dying and I was terrified. No one seemed to be actually taking action to stop this crisis, only to gloat over the sinners who deserved the virus.

  That is, no one except ActUP and Gay Men's Health Crisis, who were speaking out, advocating and actually helping people.

  National Hemophilia Foundation took money from organizations who deliberately distributed tainted clotting factor for profit and testified against their own members in court.

  My supposed advocates were turncoats at the worst moment in our history, when we needed them the most. And gay men's advocates were providing housing, comfort, and getting laws passed to help stop the spread of the disease and treat it. Sometimes they were even using in-your-face tactics to push for change. Mine were helping the enemy.

  Could homosexuals be so evil then? Could a loving, intelligent god really feel that a penis in a vagina=good but a penis going in an opening 2 inches south of the vagina=totally evil?

  I remember seeing dying men holding hands in the hospital, and thinking that seems so sweet and loving. How is this evil? It gave me the opportunity to examine what I had been taught by the dubs.

  So my religion betrayed me by not letting me get medical care and then pretending as though god made the rule because he knew about this virus, and my advocacy organization betrayed me. The only ones who seemed to be doing the right thing were ActUP and GMHC. Which one of these organizations is good and which is evil, I wondered.

  I am grateful to GMHC and ActUP for reducing the spread of the virus. I probably owe my negative status to them.

  Thanks for listening.
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  The hardship of being a gay Jehovahs witness.

  by truthwillsetyoufree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please spare a moment to consider the difiiculties faced by gay jehovahs witnesses.

  i was raised and baptised as a very serious jw.

  every waking moment of my day was lived for jehovahs and his organization and for nothing else.

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  I'm very sorry you experienced this.

  We were all brainwashed to hate homosexuality as a Cardinal sin. There is so much ignorance about homosexuality in the Borganization. It is unfathomable.
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  Goodbye JW net

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forgive me for indulging in a goodbye but it would feel wrong not to,.

  i hope the discussions and atmosphere here do not change for it is a bubbling brew of doubt, bravery and sincere hunger for answers.

  these are healthy ingrediants for humans and especially for a jehovah's witness.. this forum offers not just the ability to ask without consequence, but it also offers the means to be real.

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  Congratulations Dr. Snare!

  I will miss you. (And I do not say that to a lot of people.)
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  Dilemma

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
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  gorby and his lovely wife had during dinner a chat about watchtower hypocrisy.

  she faded with me since 2007 and shows sometimes affection for the organization.. we talked about the gb and ray franz.. she asked me if she could read my ray franz books.. now i have a dilemma.

  the books gave me a hard time in the '90.. i know the ray franz truth can hurt and shock her so much.

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  You should not give it to her and burn it just to be on the safe side.

  
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  So Happy to Learn About Homemade Weed Killer

  by Iown Mylife in

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  three days ago we mixed up the recipe and sprayed the driveway cracks and several places where the weeds have been hard to get rid of.. today the weeds are dead just like when we've sprayed commercial weed killer.. mix one gallon white vinegar, 1 cup salt, 5 to 6 tablespoons of dawn dishwashing liquid.

  note: don't spray if it's fixin' to rain, wait for dry weather so the stuff will stay on the weeds.

  and don't spray where you want anything to grow ever!.

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  Oh I've used the corn gluten meal. It prevents seeds from germinating and weed seeds tend to germinate earlier than grass seed. So you put it on your lawn in late fall or winter, IIRC, and it reduces weeds, then wears off and breaks down as a nutrient in your lawn.
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  Unnecessarily vulgar eBay auctions

  by rebel8 in

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  hmmm.

  well at least that one has something to do with the product.

  lol.. some people will go to great lengths to get their auctions to stand out.

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  You guys have not seen people selling, say, an iPhone, pictured between 2 bare breasts? There's lots of that on eBay. It's against the rules, so they're shut down if discovered. But lots get posted initially.

  LisaRose, I was a big Regretsy fan. It was hilarious. I was just looking at something on Etsy yesterday and I liked the item. If it was just a pic of the item, I might have bought it. But the item (a ceramic piece) was modeled by a woman who appeared to have not bathed or groomed herself in a long time. There were close-ups of her hands with filthy fingernails. I didn't buy it because of that.
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  So Happy to Learn About Homemade Weed Killer

  by Iown Mylife in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  three days ago we mixed up the recipe and sprayed the driveway cracks and several places where the weeds have been hard to get rid of.. today the weeds are dead just like when we've sprayed commercial weed killer.. mix one gallon white vinegar, 1 cup salt, 5 to 6 tablespoons of dawn dishwashing liquid.

  note: don't spray if it's fixin' to rain, wait for dry weather so the stuff will stay on the weeds.

  and don't spray where you want anything to grow ever!.

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  RoundUp is so bad. We had someone spray it on our property and now we're battling an ant infestation. Pesticides suck.

  I have also used boiling white vinegar as a weed killer. Just heat it up in your microwave and pour on. Best results when you do it on a sunny day so the sun helps you.
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  It's my Birthday today!!

  by quellycatface in

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  i'm really looking forward to what the day may bring...... wish you were here to share it with me..

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  Unnecessarily vulgar eBay auctions

  by rebel8 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  hmmm.

  well at least that one has something to do with the product.

  lol.. some people will go to great lengths to get their auctions to stand out.

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  Hmmm. Well at least that one has something to do with the product. lol.

  Some people will go to great lengths to get their auctions to stand out. Misuse of keywords, models wearing the item for sale while mostly naked or in provacative poses in the background, etc. I don't know if they're nuts, brilliant businesspeople, or both. Amusing though!

  Have you noticed any?