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  What was the Overall reaction from the world media ,to the Awake article ,may 22nd 1994 regarding "Youths Who Died Refusing Blood".

  by smiddy in

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  i , and my wife had probably left about 12 months prior to this magazine coming out , and i never at that time had any knowledge of it till many years later when i joined this site.. when i did see it , i was appalled that they could put out such an article , in a magazine they would distribute throughout the world .. to me it smacked of child abuse .

  these were kids , who had no life experiences , who were far too young to make life or death choices of their own , were influenced by religous leaders who had their own agenda , and sadly by family , relatives and freinds who were indoctrinated by a man made religion that has its roots in america in the late 1800`s .. so my question is , did this episode of child abuse go under the radar of mainstream media ?

  did it escape child protection agencies of the time ?.

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  rebel8

  I was already out by then and had that ragazine handed to me in a completely lame attempt to remind me of the wonderful sacrifice I had made in order to spark my dead faith.

  As you can imagine, I felt sick and outrage instead of "ooooh, I wanna be one of those dead children...lemme come back right away..." (I mean, WTH kind of incentive is that?)

  In the 70s and 80s there was little action on the part of Child Protective Services and its mandated reporters in regards to medical neglect for religious reasons, in my neck of the woods. That started to change in the late 90s or after. 1994, can't say.

  That doesn't exactly answer your question, but that's all I got.
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  Breaking News: Five White NYPD Officers neck choke an African American Guy for breaking up a fight

  by Scott77 in

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  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1405660548.

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  rebel8

  I hope they did not really do this the way the widow says. That would be horrible. It will be interesting to see what the investigation finds.
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  Anybody can get the financial records of the WT!

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. beliefs

  the wt is nonprofit, if the below information is true, then any volunteers to getting it, scanning, and posting it online???

  i found this when searching if nonprofits had to disclose their financial records to the public.

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  rebel8

  Meh. I'm talking about something I did years ago. I don't remember. You can find it in my old threads--there you will get the details. Source was IRS and NYS.
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  This photo woke me up

  by krejames in

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  i was already on my way to my second fade when i went to the wildlife photographer of the year 2012 exhibition, but this photo made me lose faith in the idea of a loving creator......(the gazelle has been injured by the mother cheetah so she can use it to train her cubs to hunt).

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  rebel8

  With all due respect to krejames, it's not awful. It's how cheetahs, and every other large predator, lives. When large predators are exterminated, a biomes health deteriorates as the herbivores, like gazelles and deer, reproduce beyond the capacity of the land to support them, as Aldo Leopold explains so eloquently in Thinking Like a Mountain. It does, however, tend to poke holes in the whole benevolent designer theory.

  How is being eaten alive, after being terrified daily by predators chasing you and your babies, not awful?

  Yes it's how they live, and it's awful.

  "Not awful" would be no overpopulation in the first place, and those that live get to do so in reasonable freedom from fear, torture, hunger, pain and disease.

  I've had many cats over the years and none of them killed for hunger. They killed for sport, left the corpses on the doorstep and came inside to eat catfood. They cornered their prey and played for hours with them, preferring them to be half dead so they could have more fun, if I let them.

  Dolphins rape, etc. The animal kingdom is brutal and there is no good creator behind any of it.
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  Chautauqua Salute makes a comeback at the Indianapolis Regional convention 7/13/14

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  2. beliefs

  as the regional convention ended in indianapolis, mark sanderson invited all the international delegates to come out onto the field for the final song.

  as they walked out, they all held a white handkerchief aloft as they waved.

  some in the audience waved a white cloth in return.

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  Its like a political party, or a national identity, a brand loyalty, it needs symbols, the jw org website is a symbol for them, then the objects, the white flags, hats, pins

  I wonder why they didn't select a white glove instead of a white handkerchief. I mean, that would have been really cool. They could have gone for the world record on the number of people dancing to Thriller simultaneously.

  

  "We're Jehovah's Witnesses! We speak out in fearlessness! Just beat it, Satan. Shamone!"
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  Anybody can get the financial records of the WT!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt is nonprofit, if the below information is true, then any volunteers to getting it, scanning, and posting it online???

  i found this when searching if nonprofits had to disclose their financial records to the public.

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  They are required to file certain forms and the public is entitled to those. The government says you should ask the org first to send you copies. I got no response to 2 requests. Then I told the gov't I got no reply so I'd like it from them directly. Used the FOIL lingo and everything. No response.

  So I think what it would take is for someone to move through all those steps, keep documentation (certified mail receipts), and then file a complaint with the government for not honoring the FOIL.

  Go for it.
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  Am I a bad person for wishing this??

  by quellycatface in

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  i have suffered with menopausal symptoms for a few years now.

  hot flushes and facial sweating, the most noticeable to others.. a sister i knew used to laugh and pretty much, mock me.

  i used to say "you wait till you get them" , without being nasty.. i seriously hope she suffers.

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  rebel8

  jdubs have little sympathy for anyone or anything unless Mother Borg specifically directs them to. They have no natural kindness, only displaying kind-like behavior if programmed to do so.

  It sounds like her ignorant lifestyle that lacks normal knowlege and social skills is punishment enough.
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  Female Attendants

  by Quarterback in

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  the best thing to come from the regenal convention this summer, is to see women used as attendants at the end of the program.

  they were used in distributing the new publications to convention delegates..

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  rebel8

  Wow. I'm genuinely shocked.

  Did they wear headcoverings?
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  Do GB members poop?

  by Magnum in

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  do gb members poop?.

  the question arises because of the great similarities i see between jw land and n korea.

  for one thing, the information flow is the same in the two realms; its one way from the top down.

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  rebel8

  Yes, because it is in the Bible. However, it does not stink.
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  R and me, part 2

  by Pistoff in

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  2. experiences

  so i am at the funeral for the son of an old mentor of mine and my closet truth friends.. .

  (i talked about r in a previous post, he was the most formative person in my life in the truth, and those of my family and friends.).

  i was pulled aside by r's wife; she tells me that r wants to talk to me.. .

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  rebel8

  My guess, not having been there myself of course, is that you symbolize his son to him and that's what the emotion is about.

  I had a similar thing happen when an old peer of mine got into some trouble at the kh--I think DFd. Her dad came to see me and broke down emotionally, begging me to come back to the meetings because he didn't want me to die at Armageddon. He had never had any sort of emotional discussion with me ever, and this conversation took place in a public area with people he did not know observing in shock.

  “And I will listen, and then maybe I can tell you, and you can listen to me.”

  That could mean he wants to express doubts, but it really sounds to me like he wants to bring you back to the fold.