i was having breakfast with a friend and former jw just yesterday and he informed me that the place we were eating in is owned by a former witness.
the story goes as he tells me that the wife and husband or on the outs and getting a divorce.
now just so you know the state i live in, a divorce is not quick, mandatory waiting period etc.
she had some difficulty with a couple of other young pioneer sisters personality wise
Why would a grown adult need pastoral counseling for this?
I'm sorry--maybe I've been away too long to understand it as others do.
umbertoecho, I'm not understanding yours either, sorry. You gave him a snotty reply. It's unusual in the borg but it sounds like that guy actually had common social skills and realized you were telling him to buzz off.
i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
you are an employee and have to be taken through a procedure as dictated by Caesars laws - otherwise the "employer" is breaking reasonable labour law
This is not true.
NYS laws are online. You can confirm this yourself if you'd like.
i was never told before i got baptised that i would loose my family if i got disfellowshipped.. no one told me i would get disfellowshipped if i had a blood transfusion.
no one told me that the gb was all powerful and tolerate no dissention.
that if i spoke to a d/f person i would get disfellowshipped.. no one told me in my marriage bed there were rules if broken d/f shipping resulted.. i was told my brothers would die or care for me.
It's shocking to me you didn't know those things. You must have been in a radically liberal, sheltered hall in order to have not known those things were going on.
You mentioned the early 80s. You must have been around during The Great Apostasy--the equivalent of the Salem witch trials for dubs.
They were hardcore back then--it was standard procedure to read a scripture specifying what sin someone committed while they did their mass disfellowshippings. They were even ritually shunning unbaptized children (they called it 'disassociating' back then--same thing--sin announced and shunning required).
You must have lived in an interesting area that didn't even know any of that was going on elsewhere?!! Did you read the publications about shunning, oral sex, etc. back then? They used to have special needs talks.
i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
According to his story: His dismissal was Illegal
He says if Bethel was his employer, they would have to give notice. He doesn't say, but I believe he is referring to the WARN law (which covers plant closures).
Bethel was not his employer.
If his story is true, that was really sucky on their part. But, volunteer organizations are often sucky to volunteers, in my experience.
i have posted this information on another thread, but i think it is important enough to have its own thread.. i have been doing research into the roots of "bloodless medicine" and naturally, the "bloodless surgeon" ron lapin that the jws hail as a hero, has come under my scrutiny.
this post concerns the lawyer gerald garner, who represented ron lapin during the 80s and 90s when lapin was being investigated for dangerous medical practices, and for being too eager to slice open patients by burning them with a cauterizing knife.
garner was received to the new york bar in 1961, and was suspended in new york in 1984 for his role in an adoption proceeding.
ok, im gonna try makin this as short as i can, cuz im still pissed.. my father is elderly, needs me to drive him to meetings.
it takes 30 minutes to drive there, so i stay for the meeting, i dress in slacks and a nice shirt ..in respect for pops.
going back home , would be pissing in the wind.....i would just have to turn around 20 minutes after getting there.. well elders asked me to the back room, and said im doing a good job taking care of my father, and that it looks like im well on my way to getting reinstated soon....wtf???.
Well to each his own, but I personally couldn't stomach helping someone participate in that dangerous, abusive cult. Worse than buying an alcoholic his 6-pack, in my opinion.
In terms of your reinstatement, they can do whatever they want. So if you want to influence their decision, do visible things that would make you ineligible. Wear a cross or something.
so, on another thread, about pluto, grreat teacher said something that speaks to my feelings about religon.
"i've kinda been sad since pluto has been demoted to dwarf planet.. you talk about 9 planets and all the little kids at school will correct you real quick and tell you that now there are only 8 planets in the solar system!".
nothing in the universe has changed but the opinion of men.
I don't think you come across that way, jw daughter.
On the one hand, you're right, of course. Basic politeness is important.
On the other hand, respecting wackadoodle ideas/beliefs is not a good thing, in my observation. It gives credence and perpetuates the snake oil. Check out this article about the fact that ridicule is effective--very interesting.
Maybe a balance can be struck--respect the person, not the false belief.
well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
Welcome and thank you for your candor.
When I was a little girl, I used to wish my parent would leave the borganization. I understood then it was misogynistic, and that was depressing.
the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.
but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.
the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.
sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.
this happened more than one year ago.
i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.
Asking for laws to be enforced is an effective strategy, not only for your sister, but potentially for reducing cult growth.
Good luck to her.
