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  Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

  it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

  jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

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  IIRC this statement has been used by wts repeatedly, always immediately preceding some policy flip flop or failed prophecy.
  
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  Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

  festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

  all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

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  We have seen what has happened when ignorant elders are put in charge of peoples lives; this will not bode well.

  This is exactly why it's AWESOME. Keep it culty, wts! That's how we prevent the innocents from ever joining.
  
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  HA the good life --Cart witnessing

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on my way home from work today, i saw the modern day pioneers having a grand old time, relaxing in the sun.

  two sprawled on one bench and the other two talking up a storm, with their iced cappuccino, just enjoying the day.

  the two carts were a number of feet away.

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  That's exactly what I would have done if cart witnessing was an option back then (and there was such a thing as an iced cappuccino back then LOL).

  In fact, I would be further away than 5 feet. I'd probably leave it a few blocks away.
  
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  Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

  festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

  all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

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  Meh, pocket checks could just be letting them look inside your purse or turning your pockets inside out for them. This happens at every sporting event I've been to lately.

  IMO they have been stupid not to do this. As usual, they implement things way after everyone else. That's about right for a stuck-in-the-Victorian-era religion.

  So can you imagine though--some of the bros will be orgasmic over this new privilege. They will feel so important. They get to be in the stadium first and they get to be bouncers.

  This makes me want to go and secretly distribute factual pamphlets, leaving them around in different spots when nobody's looking.

  Oooh--I thought of something better. Can anyone hook me up with a fake ID and an assignment to be one of the bouncers? I will have to dress as a man, which will take some practice, but how hard could it be? Then I will not let all the elders in, saying they are suspicious persons. Or I could plant some apostate literature in their pockets. LOL
  
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  Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Respond to All Accusations Made Against Them? FROM WEBSITE

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you could fertilize your garden with this shite.... https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/respond-to-accusations/.

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  we avoid getting into pointless arguments.
  

  You didn't even respond to the Australian Royal Commission when you were officially subpoenaed 3 times!

  You have to admit any arguing with the RC would have been pointless.
  
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  Fake publisher card

  by floridaborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i've been a lurked on this site for about 15 years, thank goodness for dial up internet.... anyway my fade has been working off and on for that long but my whole family is still in including my kid.

  at this point i have started dating a worldly person.

  he is wiling to put onthe facade of being a witness so i don't have to lose my family.

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  I think you'd need several co-conspirators, one to make the fake documents and others to answer mail or phone contacts from the recipients.
  

  Doing some workaround for this seems like something you'd watch on TV, like a retired spy or cop who secretly helps people in unconventional ways.

  We need an xjw Equalizer!

  
  
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  Just got back from Field Service

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i had to work with an elder in fs today.

  there was no way out.. this elder is from africa somewhere, right off the boat.

  how do they view children?.

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  What exactly should I have done?

  I don't think I'm hijacking the thread because you are venting about a bad situation, which implies you're open to discussing it, and then you're directly stating, "What should I have done differently?"

  Participating in the religion in any capacity, but especially preaching, encourages more innocents to join and existing members to stay.

  This is the actual consequence no matter how "held hostage" you may feel.
  

  But you are not an actual hostage.

  Granted--just like many other adult situations, religious or not--all available choices have imperfect outcomes.

  You're choosing yours. Choose wisely.
  
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  Guys ... Be honest here ... Do you ever Pee in the bathroom sink

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last month i got caught by my wife after a late night out with her (and some drinks).

  i guess i am evil.. just wondering if anyone else has had this misfortune.. rub a dub.

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  Jesus H. Christ! It's not like using the toilet is a huge burden.

  
  
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  Turning 60 today (Happy Birthday to me)

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is my birthday today.

  given that i turn 60 today means that i graduated high school in 1975. time flies when you are having fun.. i remember the council i got about not worrying about a career because this wicked system was rapidly coming to a conclusion.

  now i am 60 and most of those bastards are dead and the end is still in the future..

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  wow, congrats!
  
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  What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is obviously a question for the older generation.

  i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

  was the society as strict as it is today?.

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  Disco, by the way, was completely vilified. Disco was not allowed in any way--you could not even see movies if they had disco soundtracks! In fact,

  I was not allowed to have further contact with a longtime non-jw friend because she watched Saturday Night Fever and had a strobe light in her play room. (We were pre-teens.)
  

  We were told constantly from the platform that disco was created by tribes as a demonized fertility ritual that promoted homosexuality. (Don't ask me how a fertility ritual promotes homosexuality. I have no clue!)

  And WHY would you tell kids they will become demon possessed homosexuals if they listen to music...it's just wrong to treat children that way.
  

  One of the elders quit his job in 1975, and became a pioneer in October (in spite of having to support his 13 children). He also trained himself to eat leaves for when the great tribulation arrives.

  ^WOW