well I suppose that was to be expected. Conservates are reporting suntanning is as addictive as heroin, cheese is as addictive as drugs too, now gay is just a habit like eating too many Twinkies. This false equivocation is a way to minimize and distract from the truth.
Posts by rebel8
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56Kicking the "Gay Habit" at the IC
by breakfast of champions inheard from a reliable source that this was part of friday's program.
they even interviewed a "former gay man" who "kicked the gay habit".. evidently kicking the "gay habit" is difficult, not unlike quitting smoking or avoiding sugary snacks.
the persons who related this to me found the whole thing to be laughable at best, but honestly seemed quite disturbed by it (which is good!
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'The Compound' is coming on nicely...
by snare&racket inwarwick precursory site work on the watchtower bible and tract society's 45-acre jehovahs witnesses world headquarters project in sterling forest has been completed, meaning construction of the planned eight-building complex on long meadow road along the warwick-tuxedo town line is poised to begin in earnest.. the warwick town board on june 12 agreed to reduce watchtower's town-mandated $33.103 million performance bond by a third to signify the completion of approximately one-third of the project.. .
bond reduction totals $11.114 million.
watchtower bible and tract society of new york associate general counsel richard moake and spokesman david c. day, a newfoundland attorney who has represented jehovah witness clients in significant canadian religious freedom rulings, said the $11.114 million bond reduction means preliminary site work has been completed and inspected.. .
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rebel8
Well at least it created 1 job.
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Muhammad Ali fought the US Draft 47 years ago today, June 20th, 1967
by designs inwith the help of jw attorney hayden covington the supreme court ruled in favor of muhammad ali's exemption status to the draft.
i admired him for taking his stand.. meanwhile we young jw guys were being hung out to dry by the wt.
goons- knorr, franz and schroeder.
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rebel8
I still have my rejection letter from the Org. refusing to help.
Would you post it here? I'd be interested to see it. I always felt sorry for the bros--that may be the one thing the bros had worse than the women in the Org.
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"Hello from Phats"
by phats inhay out there.. wife got back from her thursday meeting & now she's setteled down with the dog, a v large g&t (maid be me) & watching terminator 2 on the telly with her ipad on her lap looking up places to go for our holiday (& googling symptoms of to many antibiotics as my 16 year old is getting signs of ibs).
so now is a good time to say hello.. well hello.
my name is phats & i'm an ex jehovah's witness.. there, i've said it.. this must be like it is going to your first aa meeting.. i've already used up some of my posts for a newbe but i'm not in to the whole long story thing.. basically i've been out now for 8 years (mentally out for all but four or five of those years of my life when i made the commitment, got baptized & married.).
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rebel8
LOL, om.
Welcome, Phats, and congratulations on your recovery.
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1975 Marketing
by lambsbottom incan anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?
how were they soooo effective?
i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!
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rebel8
No one thought twice about end times un folding or armageddon around the corner.
No one cared about end times in 1975 it came and gone without anyone recognizing it.
I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard a jw or ex-jw say anything remotely like that.
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1975 Marketing
by lambsbottom incan anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?
how were they soooo effective?
i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!
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rebel8
Back then, the printed word had even more power than it does now. Information was not so easy to get. It was hard to get a book published if you were an author, so a book was regarded as fact.
Just close your eyes for a moment and imagine yourself naive, worried about the future, and wanting badly to believe. Now imagine yourself reading a book with this in it. Gives you an emotional response, doesn't it? WOW, of all human generations, it's happening NOW! And you're one of the chosen few who even knows it's coming and will survive it! You're so special! You must adhere to this or suffer torture and death.
This graphic was a big freaking deal back then.
I am not excusing any adult from their responsibility to not teach lies to others or to expose their children to cults. Only explaining how.
Yuck! Looking at that stupid graphic is making me nauseated, literally. That sick little drawing ruined lives.
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1975 Marketing
by lambsbottom incan anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?
how were they soooo effective?
i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!
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rebel8
Once you get past the first bitter bite while being distracted by love bombing, confirmation bias kicks in.
Of course I'm just an observer, so I may be wrong. I watched a parent join up during that time period. I wasn't actually old enough to fully believe or disbelieve.
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1975 Marketing
by lambsbottom incan anyone tell me exactly how the jws advertised the '75 being the end of the world?
how were they soooo effective?
i mean, other cults are effective also, but damn!
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rebel8
They had these elaborate math problems (that when calculated, did not add up correctly), and nifty graphs that looked, deceivingly, like someone smart made them.
Vatican II had reduced some people's faith in mainstream religion--how could true religion be exactly the same for so long and then substantially different all of the sudden?
The US had been in VietNam and there was lots of domestic unrest. The vast social changes occurring in recent years left those who had 1950s conservative values confused and feeling like something was missing. Hippies, Jesus Freaks, heroin--very disconcerting.
Environmental concerns were coming to light & people were concerned Earth could not be restored. People were seeking a solution, something different, something simple, so they didn't have to figure it all out themselves.
Educational levels and scientific literacy were lower back then, so it made for easier targets.
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Elderly sister (married) says rumor is that RC talk says resurrected will be with thier mates! Poor thing.
by Wasanelder Once in87 year old sister (who's current husband, a total nazi one foot in the grave) was excited to relate that (she heard) a talk at the regional convention said a wife would be happy to meet her ressurected husband and grab him in her arms!
she reads that as reunion of the married kind.
she is pooping skittles she's so happy.
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rebel8
Why is she pooping Skittles over this?
Bligh may stay alive 'til '75 [TBA] along with her, and their marriage bond will remain unbroken.
Even if he didn't, the 1st marriage bond was terminated when she remarried, so she'd be reunited with the latest spouse.
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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......
by TTATTelder inone of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.
i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).
when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.
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rebel8
I like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what I'm used to...)
I'd venture to say most people who voluntarily choose to be dubs think so too. It has to do with personality type.
Take this test. You will probably get a J as your last letter. At the end of the test, it will explain the J and other letters. Again I'd guess most dubs are too.
I've taken every hokey pop psychology personality test out there (due to the profession I'm in), but this is the only one that holds water. And when I got the results and started learning more about it, it was just light turning a light bulb on. It explained so much, what was naturally me and what was a product of dubbery. It helped me understand my authentic self.
And then once I did, I understood some of the adjustment difficulties I had post-Borg. Some of that is me and there's nothing wrong with it. And some of it needs to give the rest of the world a break. I am not perfect either.
Try to spend time listening to people from all walks of life, those who are different from you. Ask them a lot of questions about themselves, and try to imagine things from their points of view.
