it's funny how my mind works since walking out of the hall just a bit over a year ago.
for some reason i just can't seem to bring myself to go to the jw.org site.
i find it just to painful.
I get nausea when I hear kingdumb smelodies.
It's ok. It's like when you get sick to your stomach after eating something, and can't stand to eat that thing ever again. I'm betting this automatic response to something we know to be negative is an evolutionary adaptation.
been out now for 10 yrs but life is a mess.
starting to think its because i have no spiritual compass.
why shouldn't i consider going back?.
Leaving a high control group without taking the necessary steps to heal is what alcoholics call "dry drunk". Some people leave only because things got bad, but they never healed the pain it caused, so they just keep the same sort of behavior patterns and often relapse. The relapse happens when they start looking at the past with rose-colored glasses and seek the familiarity of their former chaotic behaviors.
This is not about doctrine or a bunch of bozos. It's about a totally unhealthy way of thinking and behaving--the entire lifestyle is toxic.
You deserve a life worth living. You have to do the difficult work of healing to get there.
this is what i found at anointedjw.org.
i don't know if it's true.
on august 25, 2014, we received the following comment and inquiry: .
the death dealing ‘earthly hope’ doctrine
A bit dramatic.
They actually have deadly policies but that isn't one of them.
this drives me insane when i am rebutted after i say "well take it easy brother so & so" after a small conversation.
they always seem to reply "we are in jehovah's organization there is no taking it easy" or "we are in the last days brother we don't have time to take it easy".
i guess this makes me a care-free man of the world rather than a spiritual man!!
Yeah I found that one particularly heartless at times. Like when I was exhausted and severely anemic from untreated bleeds, and my mother would read about how lazy ones turn upon their couches, and how Satan told Jesus to be kind to himself. And then tell me to get up and put my multi-layered prarie wear on for the meeting. You know, because being at a meeting for several hours on a weeknight, when you have to get up at 5 a.m. for school, is much more important than getting needed rest.
Yes. Listening to them drone on about repetitive, utter nonsense is much more important than your child's physical well being.
suppose the following choice were offered you, and you had to choose one or the other.
which would you pick (and perhaps why):.
1) you can continue living your life as it is, die when you might, and that's that.. 2) you can instead agree to die in 1 year in exchange for this: you will be granted access to the entire past and future history of intelligent life in the universe.
I feel like there should be a fiddle solo in Georgia in that scenario.
there seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.
anyone know any simple arguements for this?
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Welcome, OP.
Check out evilbible.com.
please don't take this the wrong way if your battling weight problems, that's not what this thread is meant to talk about.
i am asking this question because jehovah's witnesses claim they have "the best way of life", "god's blessing", "the truth" and are trying to change the habits of healthy people by turning them in to their own makings.
i watched people who were great athletes turn all their muscle in to fat because we would get a elder or circuit overseer make remarks they were spending too much time "working out" and "bodily training is beneficial for little".
So many normal recreational activities are prohibited, like dancing and sports, so what do dubs do to have fun? Eat.
Dubology does not teach respect for the earth or body here and now. jehoopla is going to make it all new and perfect in the future. Focusing on the now means you lack faith.
religions, in general, did not inspire people to be good, because the means they used was illogicality.
for example: one religion teaches: humans became sinners through one man, and would become righteous through another man.
no answer!
Has it not always been entwined with religion, though?
IMO it's compromising something that shouldn't be compromised. It reminds me of when my jw parent calls gay partners "friends" or "roommates". She cannot bear to speak aloud what it really is, because it's distasteful to her.
It should be socially acceptable to claim to be an atheist without tempering it with religion-based words. It should not be distasteful. That would be the mark of a reasonable society.
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Edit: I have changed my view on this over the years after thinking a great deal about it. @ first I defined myself that way, but I quickly learned this was offensive to many atheists. My immediate reaction was that is silly, but I came to understand and agree.
It is not possible to be "spiritual" without a religious framework. Belief in the supernatural is religious.
Here is an article on it.
Respectfully, ~me
was it really put up to help doctors and patients deal with the blood issue or to talk more jws in to taking fractions components and hemopure?.
Help people get more fractions? In jw fundieland, fractions were and are taboo. The HLC, if anything, interfered with dubs getting fractions.
some day far in the future, will we be looked upon as suffragettes who abolished cults with tenacity, courage and outspokenness?.
will future generations shudder at the backwardness of cultures that permitted cults to flourish, and not comprehend how this could have happened?.
will they be grateful for being spared death and suffering at the hands of cults because of what we are doing to expose them and reduce their growth?.
Ok, so let's compare this to women's rights in the United States. This directly affects >half our country's population.These things were accomplished by advocates.
How much do you remember? Don't cheat.
In what year did it become legal for women to practice medicine, and what was the name of the first woman to receive a medical degree?
When was the 19th Amendment passed, giving women the right to vote? Name a few women who voted before that in protest, and explain what happened to them.
Which happened first, a woman running for President or women getting the right to vote?
In what year was birth control information declassified as obscene?
In what year did the Equal Rights Amendment pass?
In what year did it become legal to sell a single woman The Pill for the purpose of birth control? Name an advocate for it.
When could women apply for credit cards?
When was marital rape regarded as a crime?
When could women own property aside from their husbands?
My point is...these things happened more recently than you'd think. Have we already forgotten? Do we just take it all for granted if it didn't happen to us personally? Is that human nature?
