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  My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

  by whatisthis12 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

  when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

  we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

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  I feel like i will always be the girl that made him lose his relationship with his family and friends.
  
  Whenever you're talking about this stuff, emphasize he is free to make his own choices. He is used to others making choices for him, so be sure to remind him he gets to make choices now. That may lessen the likelihood he will blame you if he later regrets his choice.
  
  Encourage him to develop genuine friendships besides you.
  
  Honestly though, this situation is long term. Leaving a cult gives you scars. It will take years for him to deprogram himself and then he can start the work of becoming his authentic self. If you are not able to deal with the prospect of him being in some level of emotional pain for years, then I'd say you have a decision to make.
  
  Nobody is free of emotional baggage.
  
  Once he is fully open to it, he will examine the teachings and his beliefs will start falling like dominoes, one by one, but fast.
  
  If he is in an early state of this process, that doesn't mean he isn't going to progress later on. It does mean you have most of the work ahead of you though.
  
  He has been out less than 1 year. That's a newbie.
  
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  Russia Moves to Declare the Bible “Extremist”

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry if this has been mentioned already.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/russia/hearing-bible-extremist-20170727/.

  kind of misleading headline.

  it's the nwt version they want to label as extremist not the bible itself.. for those that don't want to go to that obnoxious website, here is the text.... russia moves to declare the bible “extremist”.

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  Wait, wts is claiming the reason the Russians want to declare it an extremist publication is because of the pronunciation of god's name and not because of the violence, hate, rape, misogyny, racism, homophobia, emotional abuse, urging extreme lifestyles and anti-government content?

  So now wts is a source of faux news.
  
  What I see from major news media is Russia doesn't like them because they don't vote, support Putin, attend government rallies, etc., and Putin is known for labeling people 'extremist' if they don't support him.

  I suppose their publication of this fake news on their website will seal the deal.
  
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  Who is ruling over the kingdom of the world?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible, "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.

  " (1 john 5:19).

  according to the deluded "slave", it's jesus; w73 8/1 p. 459 par.

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  According to the Bible, "the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one."

  Well we DO have some pretty wicked people running things right now.

  Just not a single individual as the bible said.....and this part didn't seem to be a prophecy because it was stated in present tense.
  
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  Anyone interested in their ashes on the moon?

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for only $12,500.00 your ashes can be put on the moon or $5,000 for a burial in low-earth orbit, where a travel-shampoo-size urn can spin for years at 17,000 mph until it gradually descends into the white-hot re-entry atmosphere.they hope to have a cemetery on the moon complete with plots and ceremonial adornments..just think every time it's a full moon you look up in the sky and you will always see you love one.

  a thought, you are resurrected on the moon.....

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  What a perfect business to have. There is no way to disprove you delivered the services you were paid for.
  
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  What I Noticed At An Event During This Week. . . . . .

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended an event this week with my usual closest relatives, which was inside a community center-ish venue with a backyard area.

  it was given by my cousin's best friend.

  she invited around 50 people of all age groups and racially-mixed.

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  Yes but there is punishment if you dine a la carte in this group.

  That's what distinguishes mainstream religions from cults. There is currently a Jew scientist claiming she doesn't believe in a god and that's perfectly consistent with Jewish beliefs (LOL). She won't be shunned, lose her job, family and housing. Nothing bad will happen to her. If a JW said they didn't believe in god, all of those things would happen.

  Piercing used to be a fringe activity that got you labeled as 'bad association'. If you did it too much, you could lose privileges and even be reproofed for stumbling others.

  I don't remember if I got my piercings after leaving the borg or not. I do remember knowing I was going to be regarded as a bad person for having them, and mine are tame.
  
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  JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.

  feel free to add your own observations and experience.

  the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.

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  In-group language is an attribute of cults.

  http://www.csj.org/studyindex/studymindctr/study_mindctr_singer.htm

  It's not a church, it's a congregation/hall.

  It's not a prophecy, it's an overly eager review of bible chronology.

  It's not clergy, it's an elder.

  It's not passing the plate, it's a donation arrangement.

  It's not a religious holiday, it's wearing extra special dress clothes to a religious service with personal celebrations afterwards.
  
  
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  They lied about methuselah tree at convention

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

  the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

  he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

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  testing posting--my previous 2 posts didn't work

  ugh

  Anyways, is it pretty much a widely accepted fact that such flora could not have possibly survived the biblical flood?
  
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  My mums dying she refuses blood transfusion...the horror.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  mum has a mild form of lukeimia if she took blood like normal people she could live to be 100. but no, anointed sisters dont compromise jehovah wont allow it.

  so here i am moving to sydney for one month going to hospital everyday putting my life on hold to watch my mother die slowly.

  watching her gasp for air, struggle to breath.

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  I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

  I agree with On the Way Out's post though. I'm sure it is hard to think that way right now, but it's true.

  This is an adult who is acting upon sincerely held beliefs. She has had plenty of opportunities to find the truth and change her thinking, and she hasn't. Even now, she doesn't--this is happening in the present tense.

  It seems clear she has made her choice, even though it's baffling to us.

  To her, accepting blood is disgusting, reprehensible, as bad as rape. Even if she were to magically change her beliefs right this second, that repulsion about blood would not disappear.

  In the end, she has made her choice to abdicate critical thinking.

  I am glad you are bringing her favorite things and being so kind. I'll bet she couldn't ask for more. :)
  
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  To Fade or Disassociate

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello to all, so i did want to talk about this topic because i think it is very important to me.

  i have a grandfather who faded several decades ago.

  he occasionally attends an assembly and the memorial but no longer attends meetings or goes on field service.

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  As previously stated here and other threads, the Borganization has an interested in disassociation, not you. It does absolutely zero for you and possibly does you harm (severs some important relationships).

  The Borganization benefits greatly because it reinforces their authority and insulates their Borg from your logic and reason.

  There is nothing in this that benefits you.

  DA is not your ritual and has nothing to do with you now.

  If you need a ceremonial split, you can do that yourself.

  Burn your pioneer card, have a Goodbye Borg party, block all dubs, cancel your talks, change your health care proxy, change your religious identification on your driver's license, get a freethinker tattoo, put yourself on the Do Not Call list, have a single catch-up holiday day called ChristmabirthEasteValentine's Day.......

  If you want to flip the bird to the Borganization, DA is not the best way to do that. Playing by their rules makes them happy. Write a letter, take out an ad in the newspaper, do a media interview, do a YouTube video.........
  

  I can think of a gajillion ceremonial ways to leave your Mother without helping her to destroy others' lives and your own.
  
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  Just sittin' and mindin' my own business...

  by Distracted in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at a local city event enjoying watching an activity.

  a friendly looking woman dressed in blue jeans and a floppy hippy looking top came and sat down besides me.

  she notices i am sketching and says she likes to do this too.

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  I'm sorry but I don't see the problem.;)

  She noticed you were sketching. She gave you some free paper.

  Think about it.

  You can pioneer (see what I did there?) a new art genre with tiny surfaces vandalized to become small apostate artworks.