Posts by rebel8

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Life after jw

by Jrjw in

hi has anyone still kept searching for the truth after leaving wts?

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rebel8

Yes, and I found it.

https://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Show-Earth-Evidence-Evolution/dp/1416594795/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1513449529&sr=8-4&keywords=greatest+show+on+earth

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

rebel8

It's free to write and publish your own short story if you have a computer or can use the one at the public library. Just go to amazon.com and do it! Make it as long as you want.

I know an even easier way to do it for free. It's called https://www.jehovahs-witness.com

But as Simon eloquently said, victims make the best victims.

I have a special hatred for people who prey upon vulnerable people. We've seen evangelists on this forum do it. We've had posters bilk other posters out of $ (Mouthy). I even started a vigil here for a dying member who (come to find out) didn't exist. Ask anyone who's had cancer how many people try to sell them cures as effective as Miracle Wheat. #45 is proving people can fall for even the most preposterous of claims, so if you're out to scam people, you will succeed if you try hard enough. People suck.

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How To Fade Away Cleanly?

by SplaneThisToMe in

jw
friends

this is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.

i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.

i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.

rebel8

Does anyone have experiences like this? What were you able to say to the friends to get them to leave you alone without the potential of saying something/acting like an apostate?

I was, sorta. I slowed down and stopped meeting attendance quickly--I don't think I did it gradually. I was a teenager and told my jw mother I refused to participate any longer.

Because she had confiscated all my $, and I was forced to pioneer/own a 4-door car that I couldn't afford/work part time, I couldn't leave the house right away. The elders told her I needed to meet with them, so because I was going to be homeless if I didn't, I did.

I just basically said I don't want to be a jw anymore. They tried to pin sins on me, including apostasy, but they had no evidence. They asked if I believed in the FDS anymore and I said I didn't know. I just kept repeating I won't be attending meetings or FS anymore, and didn't let them put other words into my mouth.

They tried to get me to DA and I said no, I just won't be attending FS and meetings anymore. They dragged on the meeting and I just kept repeating the same basic statement so we had nothing to discuss. They ended the meeting and said I wasn't DFd.

I heard from various dubs for a few months. When they visited my home and work, I said thanks for your concern but I am not interested in discussing this with you. I destroyed all mail without opening it. I moved to another territory to get away from them, which helped.

Since then, I have suspected they DFd me later on. I ask my toxic mother if I am and she has told me both yes and no at different times. Who knows, who cares...it doesn't affect me at all now.

Years later, sometimes I would run into a jw, and they didn't speak to me. That is perfect, because I shun them back. I don't want to be seen interacting with horrible people like that.

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

rebel8

Is it possible your longing for this man is symbolic of other things?

I don't believe there is only one soulmate for everyone. I believe we can love many different individuals in our lifetimes.

You have a lot to work out in your head. I'm sure running off to this man might be really appealing as an escapist fantasy. But honestly you've got some young kiddos who need you. That doesn't mean you need to stay in the marriage, just that you can't be impulsive.

You're also questioning your religion, which is totally fine too. I wonder if it's best to start with that and figure out the family stuff later? There are a lot of facts about the org's teachings and behavior to learn.

Finding out about true facts is not apostasy or bad--even the Society has published stuff about it. <<That link has quotes from Society literature with no comments, so it's not an apostate site at all.

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Out of the world, into the Truth

by apalro in

for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

disappeared.

rebel8

You got yourself out of bad situations and improved your life. Yay you!

Take a step back. Try to remove the emotion, what you want to believe and what you've been taught.

Let me save you the work. Here is what you will inevitably conclude:

The Bible is a collection of works from many different individuals.
It does indeed contradict itself.
It does indeed endorse hate, violence, rape, and other sorts of nasty things--Greek and Hebrew scriptures alike. (You can find a list of citations at evilbible.com. Then look them up in the New World Translation.)
There is and never has been any evidence of the existence of any supernatural beings.
The most important things a human being can do are these 2 things: (1) Be a good person and contribute positively to society. (2) Live a life worth living. This includes using your brain and your whole self in good, fulfilling ways.
If Jehovah is worth worshiping, and one day he decides to make his existence known, he'll be so happy to find you enjoying the gift he gave you (life). If not, you still win!

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X/LDS vs X/JW!!!Who is more twisted and bitter.

by joe134cd in

since leaving the jws i have become fascinated by the lds church, because of the similarities both organisations have.

in reading x-mo forums i get the impression that they tend to be not as bitter and as twisted as xjw.

this is surprising as i think the lds is a bigger con than the jws.

rebel8

I guess I can't embed links here at the moment, because the page freezes when I do, so let me type it in old school: http://www.lulu.com/ex-jw

I made a comparison chart of ex-mormons and ex-jws and there are some freaky similarities. I spent time on an ex-mormon page to research it and they didn't realize how similar they are to us, right down to the disparaging nicknames we give to our former organizations.

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There are only 4 ways to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

by new boy in

jw
friends

there are only four ways of leaving the jehovah’s witnesses.

so there are four ways that could lead to shunning.

i say “could” because options three and four has some loopholes.

rebel8

5. Just walk out never to go back and be completely left alone with a clean slate forever like you were never there in the first place because you have dirt on elders and a bunch of dodgy brothers and sisters and the fallout will be just to messy for them to deal with.

6. Walk away cold turkey without fading or having dirt on anyone. Just quit without notice and completely stop all jw-related activities and contact. You may be DF in absentia, or not.

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There are only 4 ways to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

by new boy in

jw
friends

there are only four ways of leaving the jehovah’s witnesses.

so there are four ways that could lead to shunning.

i say “could” because options three and four has some loopholes.

rebel8

DF isn't a method of leaving the religion, when you think about it. A person can remain a practicing jw and still be DF. DF is just a disciplinary status.

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A big question, why writtings or book?

by Crazyguy in

we often have debates on this site about what was written in the bible and why.

there are also debates about which bible is better .

then there's the debate about if the quran is really the better book or more accurate.

rebel8

I look at it differently than you, OP. I think, if there was a supernatural being that didn't plan to speak to us in modern times, and was giving us free will, he/she/it would have been way more detailed and clear in the writings. That way there'd be no question what was desired of us.

But this is all hypothetical because there has never been any evidence of a supernatural being existing.

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opportunity for fornication

by road to nowhere in

ever see brother ugly who is 86 being taken to the doctor by sister frigid who is 65 and also not good looking?

they have to have a chaperone or at least sit in back and front seats.

or a man who can't bring the freezing daughter in the house when he stopped briefly by because hubby is not home.

rebel8

jw seem to think sex happens instantaneously. That is why you can't be unchaperoned for .05 seconds.

I remember one couple went on dates by driving in separate cars to restaurants. I remember, as a brainwashed jw, that was still wrong because nobody was watching to ensure they did not make out in the parking lot...while at the same time thinking there would be nothing wrong with that.