Posts by hopelesslystained

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Are Civil Marriges Acceptable?

by hopelesslystained in

my sister has a sister in law who has been with her partner for over 15 yrs and they have recently decided to make their union legal by getting married in a civil court.

now they wish to become active in the local congregation.

they have been told that they are not recognized as being married by the elders until they have been married by an elder.

hopelesslystained

I am asking this for another. My sister has a sister in law who has been with her partner for over 15 yrs and they have recently decided to make their union legal by getting married in a civil court. Now they wish to become active in the local congregation. They have been told that they are not recognized as being married by the elders until they have been married by an elder. So, in the meantime, they are to live apart and have no sexual relations with each other. Not only that, they have been instructed to have a chaperone anytime they are together.

Is this something new? I have been away for over 20yrs. I thought civil marriages were recognized! Or, is this some weird discerning of their local elders? Please help...

Thanks,
Hope

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Convince me to move to your State (U.S. Only)

by liquidsky in

jw
friends

my husband and i are throwing around the idea of moving to a different state.

nothing is set in stone yet, but some changes in his career may allow for us to move wherever we like in the u.s. i love washington state, but i would like to move somewhere a little warmer.

i've lived in washington all my life and i need a little help in learning about the rest of the u.s.. so convince me to move to your state.

hopelesslystained

mmm, i like the house onthe pond.

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Bright spots after having left the organization

by The wanderer in

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friends

bright spots after having left the organization .

often, after having left the organization a person experiences.

a host of negative emotions regarding their life in the watch-.

hopelesslystained

Life itself as it is in the most imaginative mind. Unfortuanately family that is 'in' are a drag.

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Convince me to move to your State (U.S. Only)

by liquidsky in

jw
friends

my husband and i are throwing around the idea of moving to a different state.

nothing is set in stone yet, but some changes in his career may allow for us to move wherever we like in the u.s. i love washington state, but i would like to move somewhere a little warmer.

i've lived in washington all my life and i need a little help in learning about the rest of the u.s.. so convince me to move to your state.

hopelesslystained

California is the one and only place to be. Affordable or not depends on one's standards. Northern, is cool and lush. Southern is deserty and has many desirable amenities. Central is hometown like and simple. Pick your poison...it is all good in california.

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Someone went through my trash again and again!

by averyniceguy in

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friends

today, i went to put the trash outside and i opened my garbage can, i can tell that someone has been going thru my trash, i did not like it.

it is not the first time.

it has been going on several times in the past few weeks.

hopelesslystained

hahahhhahhaaa, how about your doggies stuff on top?

or just use a shredder for personal info.

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NEWBIES: Just curious how you all found this site??

by Lady Liberty in

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friends

as you can see there are alot of you!

being such, it would be interesting to note how you all found this site??

or did you stumble across it by accident?

hopelesslystained

After having walked away from being “raised in” back in aprox. 1977 , I became curious as to what was going on in the ‘organization’. This curiosity was stimulated by my ‘elder’ father and ‘bi-polar’ younger sister verbally attacking me after a family reunion which I attended. I was attacked on so called scriptural reasons (mind you, I have not been in a KH for 20 yrs.) because I had breakfast with my ex-sister in law the next day. Well, ex-sister in law since my ‘elder’ brother had obtained a divorce. This now ex sister in law had put him in jail for physical abuse! The damages to her are a matter of hospital and police record. She in the meantime had found another married jw to sleep with. This meant nothing to me. But yet,

Yes, my brother is still an elder for the jws! But she was disfellowshiped. ?Makes sense right?? NOT

I wanted to know what was going on within the org to explain these attacks. So I searched Jehovah’s witness and came to the official site which was putting forth nothing but the same old spew I had known as a child.

But..oh!! there were these other links as well. This surprised me as I had expected the witnesses to be much more obscure, certainly no anti-witness sites would be available since they had so much information control and no witness-ex-witness would ever put up negative information. Uhmmm, due to the condamination the society would put upon them. Yes, I was one of those idiots that thought the org had total control due to being
‘god’s earthly organization’, yet still. This was abt 4 yrs ago.

Duhhhhhh! Or a more current expletive, “dee d dee!”

So here I am and checking in on a regular basis.

Hope (Awake mag graduate)

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The term apostate is used freely on this forum, don't you find it offensive

by avidbiblereader in

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friends

i find the term apostate used freely towards those who have left the org, by both witnesses hiding and also ex witnesses calling themselves that.

don't you find that offensive.

i have been out for over 6 years and the last thing i consider myself is an apostate.

hopelesslystained

i like your description, jgnat, 'I think there is power in owning a word that is meant to injure.'

As that is all it is, a weilding of power over the minds of those who accept it as a negative implication. to bad so many do not have the knowledge of the true meaning.

why? because they refuse to accept their beliefs could possibly be turned away from by honest, good hearted individuals.

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Ancient Tsunami Source of Flood Legend?

by willyloman in

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friends

this is being reported by msnbc.

wonder if the biblical flood legend, and related stories, stems from this event?.

ancient tsunami devastated mediterranean .

hopelesslystained

Along the same lines, I watched a History Channel show about the plagues of Egypt being easily explained by weather science, including the red rain of blood. I highly recommend watching, The Exodus Decoded
Hope

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Roll call time - What KH's have you attended.............

by Check_Your_Premises in

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naperville, dekalb, joliet......... il.

i tried to bump an old thread on this topic, but i couldn't find it.. anyone?

beuller?.

hopelesslystained

Montebello, CA
Lancaster, CA
Mount Washington, CA
Lake Elsinore, CA
Ventura, CA

Amazing I can remember...it's been so long!

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Does anyone remember?

by Pahpa in

i'm an oldtimer.

but does anyone else remember the "demon scare" back in the 60s or 70s?

the watchtower came out with articles about demon possession.

hopelesslystained

heheheh, I love these demon stories!

Here's another,
While out in service as a kid in the 60's my folks and i were on a return visit to a guy who had pin ups all over his garage. I remember thinking, "oh, how pretty these girls all were, maybe I will look like that someday" Well, I really don't remember the adult conversation (witnessing) that went on, but he gave my mom a chocolate candy bar. I thought " oh what a kind man".

Anyway, we got back to the car with my dad and sisters, and brother, and I was all happy to share the chocolate. NO WAY! as soon as we were out of sight of the homeowner, my mom in a frenzy stated the candybar to be demonized and threw it out the window (much to my horror) and she was shaking and saying franticaly, "oh, Oh, I feel that was the righteous thing to do, Jeh... surely guided me to do that"!

HUH?