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  MY LITTLE GIRLS HEART PROBLEM

  by chuckyy in

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  i am very angry at this time.. i took my 7 yr old little girl to the hospital yesterday....she has had heart problems since birth.

  i explained that we were no longer jw,s and would accept blood if necessary during open heart surgery.

  the doctor told me that if that was the case, the operation must proceed without delay.

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  SF

  ARE YOU SAYING THAT I MAY HAVE GROUNDS FOR SUEING THE WATCHTOWER ORG???

  CHUKYY
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  MY LITTLE GIRLS HEART PROBLEM

  by chuckyy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i am very angry at this time.. i took my 7 yr old little girl to the hospital yesterday....she has had heart problems since birth.

  i explained that we were no longer jw,s and would accept blood if necessary during open heart surgery.

  the doctor told me that if that was the case, the operation must proceed without delay.

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  chuckyy

  HI

  I AM VERY ANGRY AT THIS TIME.

  I TOOK MY 7 YR OLD LITTLE GIRL TO THE HOSPITAL YESTERDAY....SHE HAS HAD HEART PROBLEMS SINCE BIRTH. I EXPLAINED THAT WE WERE NO LONGER JW,S AND WOULD ACCEPT BLOOD IF NECESSARY DURING OPEN HEART SURGERY. THE DOCTOR TOLD ME THAT IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THE OPERATION MUST PROCEED WITHOUT DELAY. HE ADDED THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY HAD WAITED WAS BECAUSE OF OUR PREVIOUS STAND ON BLOOD. HE ALSO ADDED THAT THE WAIT MAY HAVE CAUSED FURTHER COMPLICATIONS. I,M ANGRY BECAUSE I THOUGHT ALL THESE YEARS THAT WE WERE WAITING FOR HER TO GROW, NOT BECAUSE WE WERE JW,S. SO HERE WE ARE WITH A NOW VERY AWARE LITTLE GIRL THAT COULD HAVE HAD THIS ORDEAL WELL BEHIND HER WITH LITTLE MEMORY OF IT. NOW, THIS WILL NOT BE THE CASE. ALL BECAUSE OF SOME IDIOTIC POLICY THAT I WENT ALONG WITH TO THE DETRIMENT OF MY FAMILY. GOD HELP THE WATCHTOWER. THANKS FOR LISTENING
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  144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????

  by chuckyy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.

  the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.

  initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.

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  PMJ

  DOES THIS IMPLY THAT THE THOUSANDS OF MEN /WOMEN WHO DIED IN THE ROMAN ARENAS, UNDERWENT HORRIFIC DEATHS FOR NOTHING??....THAT THERE WAS NO REWARD FROM GOD FOR THESE UNSELFISH ACTS OF FAITHFULNESS???

  RESPECTFULLY

  CHUKYY
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  144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????

  by chuckyy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.

  the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.

  initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.

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  AS JWS WE WERE TOLD ONLY 144000 GO TO HEAVEN FROM THE TIME OF CHRIST RIGHT UP TO THIS DAY.IT DAWNED ON ME BEFORE I WAS BAPTIZED ONE DAY DURING MY STUDY THAT THE NUMBERS DONT ADD UP. THE BROTHER WAS TELLING ME THAT THE ROMAN PERSECUTIONS OF THE CHRISTIANS WERE KILLING THOUSANDS EVERY WEEK. INITIALLY, WITHIN WEEKS OF JESUS DEATH, THERE WERE 5000 CHRISTIANS AT LEAST IN JERUSALEM. A FEW DECADES LATER, PAUL SAID THAT CHRISTIANITY HAD BEEN PREACHED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE KNOWN WORLD. SINCE THEN, 1900 YEARS HAVE PASSED BY WITH MANY GENUINE CONVERTS THROUGHOUT THE AGES AS EVEN THE WATCHTOWER ADMITS. COUPLED WITH THIS ,SINCE THE 1870S UNTIL NOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WITNESSES HAVE CLAIMED THE HEAVENLY CALLING. SO MY QUESTION IS:

  DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP. HAVE THERE BEEN ONLY 144000 FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS FROM THE DAY OF PENTECOST, THROUGH THE ROMAN PERSECUTION, THROUGH 1900 YEARS OF CHRISTIANITY UNTIL NOW??? WHAT DO YOU THINK???
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  144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????

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  I'm just numb! :-( I need to vent!

  by caz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have just witnessed for myself one of the most hypocritical scenes ever before in my life!

  my sister's ex husband, ( father to 3 boys, 12, 15, 20 years) commited suicide a few days ago.

  he has been a jehova's witness all of his life and and also suffered from bi polar disorder for most of it also, particularly bad in the past 3 years.

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  SO SORRY TO HEAR OF THIS.

  MY WIFE AND I DISASSOCIATED LAST YEAR BASICALLY BECAUSE OF VERY UNLOVING ACTIONS. MY WIFES FATHER DIED SHORTLY AFTER AND EVEN THOUGH MY MOTHER IN LAW IS A WITNESS, THE FUNERAL WAS BOYCOTTED BECAUSE I WAS TAKING IT IN THE FUNERAL HOME. I CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL. BEING SHUNNED AT THIS TIME IS SOMETHING SO UN CHRIST LIKE. IT CONVINCED ME THAT I MADE THE RIGHT DECISION TO LEAVE.

  BEST WISHES AND LOVE TO YOUR FAMILY.

  CHUKYY
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  WHAT DOES HAPPEN AFTER DEATH????

  by chuckyy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the jw view on what happens at death.

  however a friend of mine lost a very young son and went to a medium.

  the medium told her the name of her son without knowing anything about her or even knowing that she had a child that died.

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  HI

  WE ALL KNOW THE JW VIEW ON WHAT HAPPENS AT DEATH. HOWEVER A FRIEND OF MINE LOST A VERY YOUNG SON AND WENT TO A MEDIUM. THE MEDIUM TOLD HER THE NAME OF HER SON WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT HER OR EVEN KNOWING THAT SHE HAD A CHILD THAT DIED. SHE SAID HE WAS THERE IN THE ROOM. nOW I AM NORMALLY SKEPTICAL ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT HOW CAN WE EXPLAIN THAT? THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE...BUT WHAT????

  WAS IT DEMON INSPIRED MAKING JW'S CORRECT OR WAS HER SON REALLY THERE IN SPIRIT??? IF SO WHY DOES THE BIBLE CONDEMN CONTACTING THE DEAD???

  I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS, EXPERIENCES OR HELP...I AM CONFUSED

  CHUKYY
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  CHEATING ON FIELD SERVICE

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  towards the end of my time as a jw, i must confess to cheating whilst out on field service.. 1. i would turn up at the field service arrangement with my wife, and we would say that we were working together that day to do return visits.

  as everyone went out, we would simply get into our car and drive home.

  (hypocritical i know).

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  HI

  Towards the end of my time as a JW, i must confess to cheating whilst out on field service.

  1. I would turn up at the field service arrangement with my wife, and we would say that we were working together that day to do return visits. As everyone went out, we would simply get into our car and drive home.(hypocritical i know)

  2. When there were odd numbers at the field arrangement, i would volunteer to go out on my own. At each house, i would very quietly knock the door, hardly making a sound. (I was a coward too)

  HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE SIMILAR THINGS OR CHEATED ON FIELD SERVICE????

  Chukyy
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  JEHOVAHS ORGANIZATION and NAZI ORGANIZATION: SIMILARITIES????

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the more an individual was willing to commit bad acts against humanity in the name of the state, the more likely he would move up the ranks, as he would be considered loyal to the party.

  eventually all of the 'inhumane' became higher ranking officials.. .

  jehovahs witnesses:.

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  Yes Top Hat

  All you need to do is to write a letter of disassociation to your local cong.

  I suggest that you post the letters to your friends at the same time as the disassociation letter.

  I also just wanted to warn you in a way of the emotional rollercoaster that you are embarking upon.

  Being shunned by former friends is not easy to deal with. In the end though, it is worth that initial hardship.

  Feel free to vent your feelings on this site as many here understand the emotions involved.

  CHUKYY
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  JEHOVAHS ORGANIZATION and NAZI ORGANIZATION: SIMILARITIES????

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the more an individual was willing to commit bad acts against humanity in the name of the state, the more likely he would move up the ranks, as he would be considered loyal to the party.

  eventually all of the 'inhumane' became higher ranking officials.. .

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  NAZI'S:

  The more an individual was willing to commit bad acts against humanity in the name of the state, the more likely he would move up the ranks, as he would be considered loyal to the party. Eventually all of the 'inhumane' became higher ranking officials.

  JEHOVAHS WITNESSES:

  The more a person goes along with inhumane acts such as shunning/blood policy etc, the more he is considered to be a company man, loyal. Hence, he rises up the ranks and becomes an elder/co etc. Eventually the more insensitive people are in charge.

  NAZI'S

  Those people more sensitive may not have gone along in perpetrating bad acts, and may not have been considered as loyal as the others. Consequently, they did not rise up the ranks but either remained in submission or were eliminated or put out of the party.

  JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

  Those more sensitive and compassionate may not go along with the idea of shunning others (including family members). They may not go along with the blood policy when family lives are endangered. Hence, they are not considered as loyal and are either eliminated by disfellowshipping (dead in the eyes of others), or are considered

  'WEAK'.......and so do not rise up the ranks but remain in submission.

  ONLY A THEORY.......what do you think????

  CHUKYY