Posts by Glofishy

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Memorial experiences 2005 thread

by Jez in

lets put all of our memorial stories/thoughts on one thread.

mine: 45 mins.

quick and boring.

Glofishy

I've been a friendly observer to the JW's for about 7 memorials now...and I didn't hear anything different other than the invitation to have a free home bible study.

A family member of my husband's was there that was disfellowshipped. I could tell she was hurting and I made a point to say hello to her, smile at her and make some small talk. I just can't be rude to someone, especially someone that admittedly made some mistakes, but heck, at least she's trying to correct it. I kinda felt hurt for her when I noticed she practically darted out the door at the KH when the thing was over. I'm sure that me talking with her didn't make some people exactly happy, but I just don't see the sense in being mean...especially since I really love her. Crap happens to everyone, none of us are perfect.

On a side note, the unleavened bread seemed especially unappetizing this time around. Not sure if it was because it was darker than I expected or what? Does anyone know what they do with the wine and the overcooked crackers when the memorial is over?

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Can anyone provide information about the voting change

by Triple A in

no longer can they hide things such as their hypocritical un involvement, policy changes on voting because they lost a law suit in france or trying to keep their image clean by keeping pedophile issues hidden in local kingdom hall closets.

the above quote was made by seven006 in a well written thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/78991/1.ashx).

can anyone inlightten me as to when the policy on voting occured, what the change was, and did it reach beyond the borders of france.

Glofishy

Is there a place that is an official site of the JW's that I can print that particular article from? I have to let my hubby know that he doesn't need to convince me how to vote on certain issues because he didn't have a voice! lol OMG what a dream come true, to have him be able to vote with me and participate in political functions.

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. I think a JW would be more inclined to vote for someone that is non-intrusive on personal freedoms and choices.

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Why did they change the sterilization beliefs?

by mkr32208 in

i posted this on another thread but it suddenly seemed more important and i wanted to get some opinions!

i was still a dub when sterilization changed from a consciences matter to a no-no.

i remarked to my wife at the time that i thought the reason for this was a declining membership!

Glofishy

I think their position on in-vitro fertilization is remarkably consistant with what I would think a true anti-choice organization should believe. It's a position that probably is not popular I'm sure. A lot of churches out there claim to be pro-life, but refuse to even speak out against in-vitro fertilization procedures. They mix politics and religion only if it's convenient for them.

I'm a pro-choice Christian, but I would and have personally refused to partake in in-vitro fertilization because while I am pro-choice politically, I am pro-life personally. While I may not agree with those that would impose their religious beliefs on others through legislation, I find the JW's to be consistant in this matter. Not that I don't have a lot of other gripes against the organization, cause I do. Well, it's not like they are out there pushing for legislation either, hehe.

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Facts About Jehovah?s Witnesses

by JerichoForce in

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facts on jehovah?s witnesses

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Glofishy

A lot of married JWs practice oral sex frequently, but won't admit it.

They just discourage that to make it more fun.

hehe just kidding

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I Received the New Magazines in My Mail...

by lonelysheep in

[first...there are about 3 or 4 kh's in my city.

over the summer, they moved people into their proper congregations based on territory.

although i'd never gone to the closest hall, this is where the magazines came from per the return address.].

Glofishy

Yep it's a Federal offense. And they owe the Postal Service some money! They should pay. I've heard of other people in similar situations sending them a heavy envelope with a couple of pennies postage on it with no return address. Not that heavy, just less than a pound. They send it because it can only be forwarded to the address shown, but it will arrive postage due. They then have to pay for the postage in order to keep the envelope. Not that I'm encouraging it, just letting you know what I've heard other people have done.

To properly address this situation, I'd encourage you to go through the USPS channels and file a complaint. I've heard that there is a huge problem with mail theft, and this would be the perfect guise in which someone could abuse it and steal mail. If someone could improperly put something in, they could also take something out. Good luck to you and give us an update :)

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Hi -I'm Jewish

by moshe in

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friends

i'm an ex-jw - i converted to judaism .

i just wondered if any ex-jw's like me are now jewish or have questions about judaism.. shalom,.

moshe

Glofishy

Glad to meet you Moshe :)

I studied with the JW's, and my hubby is an inactive, unbaptized publisher. I was thinking of going the Jewish way myself...like in Messianic Judaism. What form of Judaism are you practicing, if you don't mind me asking?

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I can't get a straight answer

by Glofishy in

can anyone tell me if the organization believes that when a married spouse is addicted to pornography, they are actually cheating?

i mean cheating in the sense that the "innocent" spouse can then declare that they are victims of adultery, and be free to marry again?

i looked around their website and found nothing that specifically stated that it is considered cheating.

Glofishy

Now why couldn't they just TELL me that? lol

I guess it will remain as a rhetorical question. Now, lets just say that surrogate pregnancy is considered cheating, and the usage of one's genitalia with two persons is cheating. How do they reason that the woman that poses in pornography does so knowing that she is doing that for one purpose, for visual stimulation, and the recipient uses it as a means for sexual release? There's two people involved and it involves the use of one person's genitalia.

I suspect that they don't want to take such a strong position on the issue since it would probably result in a lot of unhappy couples having actual validation from the religion for divorce. I would suspect that a lot of elders and such would also be demoted as a result, or expelled completely if anyone found out. One can be reproved privately, but a divorce is a matter of public record.

As far as phone sex goes, the woman on the other end of that phone has absolutely no sexual interest in the caller. Phone sex operators think the callers are losers, quite frankly. The image in the Aerosmith Sweet Emotion video is not very off base, lol.

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I can't get a straight answer

by Glofishy in

can anyone tell me if the organization believes that when a married spouse is addicted to pornography, they are actually cheating?

i mean cheating in the sense that the "innocent" spouse can then declare that they are victims of adultery, and be free to marry again?

i looked around their website and found nothing that specifically stated that it is considered cheating.

Glofishy

Can anyone tell me if the organization believes that when a married spouse is addicted to pornography, they are actually cheating? I mean cheating in the sense that the "innocent" spouse can then declare that they are victims of adultery, and be free to marry again? I looked around their website and found nothing that specifically stated that it is considered cheating. It talks about how it's good to abstain from it and stuff, but no clear cut answer. I called their media relations office to ask them, but the gentleman on the line referred me to the same excerpts from Awake publications that didn't provide an answer. He also encouraged me to get a study going, which I am not interested in frankly, I just wanted an answer to my question. Not that this is a particularly crushing issue to me, but now that I don't have the answer to my question, it's bugging me! I feel like Monk. lol

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Dropping attendance and disolving congregations

by RunningMan in

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friends

well, i came across a couple of interesting pieces of news yesterday, that i thought you would all find encouraging.

while i was standing in line at macdonald?s yesterday morning, i ran into a couple of jws from the other side of town.

they were up in my area because (not surprisingly) they were laying tiles at a local bar and the work had to be done on sunday morning.

Glofishy

About a couple of years ago or so, the Society stopped mailing Awake and Watchtower. They used to send it via second-class mail on a yearly subscription basis. Now if you want them, you have to get them from your congregation.

It was a pretty drastic change for the organization, and I would guess it simply became cost prohibitive for them to continue to do so. I'm not sure about the validity of them being as financially solvent as one would think.

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Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip in

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we have just gotten home from sunday-meeting, when my mom ask me if i believe in god and so on.

so i tell her, cause you adviced me to be honest.

and despite all my fears, she took it very calm, and then told my dad whos also taking it calm, and it doesnt seem like theyre hating me now or want to throw me out of the house.. the thing is.

Glofishy

You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. :) You also are very lucky that you have parents that love you so much! Whatever you eventually decide to do, just keep in mind that your mom and dad really love you, and from their perspective, they want you to study and become a JW because they really believe that if you don't, you'll be destroyed.

Hmm, what to do! Well, you're under your parents care and in their household...I'd take them up on the study, but don't limit your study with just what the brother has to say or what the book tells you. Do some independent research and ask questions! You'll find out soon enough what is commonly acceptable beliefs and what is not. I just figure it this way: Knowledge is power.

Don't forget to hug, kiss, and tell your parents you love them after you chat. So often teens feel shy about that. :) And, even if you wind up disagreeing with their beliefs, always respect them and their choice of religious beliefs.