Posts by Glofishy

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Getting divorced from my husband

by Glofishy in

well, we've been having a lot of problems, and we've decided to get divorced.

i hope some of you can help me understand the teachings regarding this issue.

here's my questions:.

Glofishy

I didn't really expound on why we need to get divorced, but I feel the need to rant so here goes:

When we first got married, we were "spiritually" at the same level. He was raised JW but not baptized and was considered an inactive publisher. I was studying because I found things about the religion that I agreed with that no other religion taught. When I got to the point in my studies where I discovered that they were intrusive on matters that were none of their business, I backed off. I discovered more about the religion that I frankly could never agree with, and now I don't hate them, but I don't feel that membership with them is appropriate. There is one thing that really pissed me off though.

He said he was always raised to believe that physical attraction to a potential mate didn't matter. He said they always taught that compatability in other areas is what is most important. He said that they taught the physical attraction will come when we live in an earthly paradise, so he didn't mind waiting for that to come along. Had he told me when we married that he wasn't physically attracted to me, I never would have married him. I would have remained friends with him since we have a lot of things in common, but I wouldn't have married him. As a result, our entire marriage is based on a lie, and that's a bitter pill to swallow. Even more bitter considering that we really do have a lot of things in common and would otherwise be compatable and totally happy.

What kind of screwed up religion would actively teach their followers not to consider physical attraction an important factor in choosing their life partner??? Whenever I've gone to district conventions and saw the "apostates" outside with their picket signs, I used to wonder what the hell they were so angry about, and why they just didn't spend their day at the beach or something. I was always told that they were most likely disfellowshipped for immorality and they were just angry about it.

Well DUH!!!!!! If the religion teaches to ignore physical attraction when choosing a mate...what the hell do they think is going to happen??? It's like asking for adultery to occur! He wants to stay with me because he says I'm emotionally and mentally a perfect match for him. How the hell can I stay in a relationship where someone isn't attracted to my body type, skin color, etc?

Well, I hope others that are considering dating/marrying JW's take my message to heart. I really hate lumping everyone together, but just be careful that you don't run into the same situation that I have. This experience has taught me a hard lesson in life...never date a JW again. I'm not going to fake an affair, and I have already told him that I don't know if I'll ever be sexually active with another person ever again, which is the truth.

I've always believed that if JW's ruled the world, we wouldn't have wars. There's a lot of great qualities they have, but this belief is really off base and illogical.

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Getting divorced from my husband

by Glofishy in

well, we've been having a lot of problems, and we've decided to get divorced.

i hope some of you can help me understand the teachings regarding this issue.

here's my questions:.

Glofishy

Thanks for all the input guys. I'm in CA so it's no fault here. I'm such a twisted person that I probably would have enjoyed going into sordid details of something that didn't happen just to see the look on their faces. Hell, I can even pepper the "confession" with a few choice terms and watch them squirm, lol.

He says that I will never accept the "truth", and he's right. In fact, I'm turned off to all religion in general. I already asked a buddy of mine to smack me if I ever decide to get involved in another religion, lol. I've struck out with the born again community because of their crazy beliefs, JW's certainly don't like my political opinions and the fact that I think their whole blood teaching is frankly stupid and dangerous. I can't stand the Catholic church because they refuse to take me off their rolls due to me being involuntarily baptized and marked as one of them as a baby. Mormons freak me out with their whole "blacks are cursed and descendants of Cain" theory, not to mention the golden spectacle teachings. The worst thing that the JW's teach is about the insignificance of school and college. I can't think of one organized religion that doesn't have something that is stupid about it. I should just start my own, call it the Church of Glofishy. Do whatever you wanna do. Do whatever makes you feel good and feel good about yourself. Help the helpless whenever possible. Stop unnecessary wars so my buddies don't have to be forced to go to Iraq. Work hard and be as successful as you can be. Live and let live, be kind to those that you don't agree with. Oh, and if anyone wants me to perform a marriage ceremony for them, they would have to have a pre-nup first. I could have saved a lot of worry and pain had I gotten one.

*hugs*

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Getting divorced from my husband

by Glofishy in

well, we've been having a lot of problems, and we've decided to get divorced.

i hope some of you can help me understand the teachings regarding this issue.

here's my questions:.

Glofishy

Well, we've been having a lot of problems, and we've decided to get divorced. I hope some of you can help me understand the teachings regarding this issue. Here's my questions:

1. I don't hate the guy. I want him to be able to remarry someday. He says the only way that can happen is if I cheated on him. I plan to spend the night at my best friend's house, and come back and report to him that I cheated. I told him that I was going to cheat on him and asked him if he believed me. He said he did. We both know deep down inside that this isn't the case, but my best friend is going to try to put a hickey on my neck so that it looks like I had a wild time. Instead, I'll be getting drunk with her and her girlfriend. Is this sufficient enough to "prove" adultery on my part?

2. I told him that I would be willing to attend the watchtower study and talk on a Sunday after he signs the divorce papers and report myself to the elders and my sinful, adulterous ways. Will this be enough, or will I have to go into sordid details of the "affair"? I can get pretty graphic if they like...as I have a great imagination for that sort of thing.

3. If for any reason down the road, he grows up a little and decides he's made a huge mistake by divorcing me...does he have the ability to marry me again if I don't find someone else by that time?

4. He said he was always taught that if we could be friends with each other, that we shouldn't be getting divorced in the first place. I find this hard to swallow since it appears that we are better off as friends than a married couple. He's really confused about this and so am I. He's not baptized, he's considered an inactive publisher.

5. Let's say down the line he manages to get baptized while we are divorced. Say he's had his fill of growing up and I wind up being free. Can he marry me again or will he be disfellowshipped? I can't imagine that I would wind up marrying him again, but you never know. Our problems stem from his immaturity, and he needs to get away from me and grow up. He was so sheltered growing up that our relationship always seemed lopsided as far as me being the one to make decisions and stuff.

I'll probably have more questions later. I already told him that I have no intentions of joining the organization, since they seem to forbid things that really is none of their business.

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Can you refute these?

by Mary Phooty in

1. are jesus and michael the archangel really the same person?.

one of the most peculiar of the wtss teachings is their assertion that jesus is actually michael the archangel.

" in acts 10:19-20, this "impersonal force" considers himself to be a person.

Glofishy

I consider Catholicism a cult as well. With these JW's, all you have to do is disassociate yourself and you will no longer be regarded as a member. Since I was involuntarily baptized a Catholic as a baby, it's impossible to get my name off their stupid rolls even though I despise the religion today. Talk about cultish control!

But don't mind me, I'm very cynical about most religions.

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Would JW's boycott business?

by Fatfreek in

i just noticed this item on nationwide newsthe us southern baptist convention, representing the country's largest protestant denomination, has ended its eight-year-long boycott of the walt disney corporation over its allegedly pro-gay policies .... .

has anyone heard of jw's boycotting businesses?

years ago, an elder worked at the health food store downtown.

Glofishy

I went to a convention last year and they had a boycott of the food services in the convention hall. They encouraged everyone to bring their own food. Not sure why this was, but I think it had something to do with the convention hall and their contract with the employee's union there. I thought it was BS and I made sure to purchase lots of food and drink there and be extra nice to the workers. I showed them how much I appreciated their food...even though it really wasn't the best, lol.

BTW, if you couldn't tell by now, I am a very active Union member, and officer with my state union.

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Question for Jehovah's witnesses?

by _stone_ in

i was reading through a christian forum and there was a thread that someone had started speaking of the trinity.

when i say trinity i mean the father, son, and holy ghost\spirit trinity.

anyrate, sose about a hundred or so post into that thread someone mentioned that jehovah's witnesses don't believe in the trinity.

Glofishy

Stone:

You have to realize that the majority of us are tired of "hit and run" evangelists that ASS-U-ME that everyone here is an active JW. I can only speak for myself when I tell you that I am tired of self righteous religious zealots from just about any religion, including my own, which is generally Christianity.

Your post had the appearance of attempting to "bait" an active JW into a debate. Why come to a message board to do that? Just wait for them to come knocking on your door and you can ask them all the questions you like. In fact, if you're that interested, just tell them that you would like to start a book study with them, and tell them all your questions and concerns. It will help them since you'll be padding up their service hours, and it will help you since you seem so interested in this.

If you saw angels, I hope it wasn't listening to Led Zeppelin records backwards when you saw them. lol

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how do people repent before they start studying or get baptized?

by Daisy21 in

hi every body...i grew up beleiveing in the jw religeon...my mother studied off and on.. due to problems in the family she never got baptized...but she allways beleived in it and so do i..but recently i decided that i want to start studying again..and this time serioulsy b/c before i was a kid now im grown..but for the past 10 or more years ive been sinning..i had a baby without being married ...and i used to smoke marijuana alot!

but i stopped ...but i still do smoke ciggarrettes im trying to stop but its hard to quit cold turkey!

my ?for jw please i will take advice from others but i really dont want to b/c i really want to study and eventually get baptized...anyway my ?

Glofishy

Just realized that I may have been too graphic in my previous post for this particular section of this forum. So I apologize if I offended anyone, wasn't on purpose.

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how do people repent before they start studying or get baptized?

by Daisy21 in

hi every body...i grew up beleiveing in the jw religeon...my mother studied off and on.. due to problems in the family she never got baptized...but she allways beleived in it and so do i..but recently i decided that i want to start studying again..and this time serioulsy b/c before i was a kid now im grown..but for the past 10 or more years ive been sinning..i had a baby without being married ...and i used to smoke marijuana alot!

but i stopped ...but i still do smoke ciggarrettes im trying to stop but its hard to quit cold turkey!

my ?for jw please i will take advice from others but i really dont want to b/c i really want to study and eventually get baptized...anyway my ?

Glofishy

Hiya Daisy and welcome

As far as I can tell here locally, the policy is "Don't ask, don't tell" in regards to oral sex. If you give up giving your man oral sex due to your religious beliefs, don't you think that would kind of piss him off? What is it about oral that you don't like? Have you tried flavored lotions? Maybe it's the taste that turns you off. Tell him to drink pineapple juice, I heard that works. If you can put up with "finishing", learn to keep the stuff under your tongue until you can spit it out in the sink...just don't make a big deal about spitting cause some guys think it's a sign of rejection. If you can't, then you can take care of his needs and let him finish inside of you during intercourse. If you really just don't like it, and it has nothing to do with what anyone else is telling you, just be honest with him and let him know. Sexual compatability is very important in a marriage, and he really should know what he's getting into and whether he wants to deal with that or not.

Now the smoking...here's how I'm trying to quit, and it certainly is not due to this religion. Doc prescribed Wellbutrin for me to start about a month before I attempted to quit smoking. This was in order to let it sink into my system and start working. Then, he prescribed Xanax for me to use after I quit. I asked him if I could also chew Nicorette gum while I was trying to get off cigs. He said absolutely and encouraged me to do whatever I needed to do. I was smoke free for 6 weeks with this, went through a particularly stressful personal situation and smoked a pack, and now I've been smoke free since Sunday evening. Do it for yourself though. Do it because you want to be healthy enough to enjoy your child and play with them as they grow. I'm praying in my own way that God makes the smell of cig smoke unpleasant for me someday...because when I pass smokers, I tend to inhale deeply and sigh as I suffer from withdrawl, lol.

I agree with the others that saying that it's wrong because homosexuals do it is really stupid. Last I checked, homosexuals urinate, deficate, eat, drink, walk, talk, blah blah blah...doesn't mean that it's wrong for me to do those things just because I'm not gay!

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by PrintThis0103 in

http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/images/passionhome.jpg.

http://fathersloveletter.com/fllpreviewlarge.html.

http://www.tbn.org/films/videos/to_hell_and_back.ram.

Glofishy

I think Fahrenhiet 9/11 was a much better movie than the Passion of Christ.

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Delaying surgery due to blood issue.....

by jillbedford in

i am a supervisor at my job.

one of my reports has asked for medical leave due having cervical cancer.

she has just informed me she will be delaying her surgery for her cervical cancer due to not finding a doctor who will perform the surgery without blood.. she has a fast spreading cancer.. i really want to help her but i need to be careful.

Glofishy

I am going to assume that she's looking for bloodless surgery due to JW beliefs. I'd tell her to call the HQ for a referral to a physician that performs this type of surgery bloodless. They are the ones that insist on this crazy policy, I would think they would have a database somewhere that lists physicians and hospitals that do this. I would also think that if her life depended on it, and the only physician and hospital that could do it is too far to travel by car, that the organization should have a fund set up to assist people like her with airfare and such. I mean, it's SOOOOOOOOOO important to abstain from blood right?

As far as your job being her supervisor, does your company have an employee assistance program? Might want to ask her if she would like a referral to that too. You can also reassure her that she has protections under the Family and Medical Leave Act and you will stand behind her and her rights.

Wish my job had more caring supervisors such as yourself. Good luck!