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How long have they been keeping records for?

by inquirer in

sorry with all these threads, but this is something that i detest!

flaming records!

:(

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blondie

Actually, it wasn't until Rutherford came on board that time slips and closer record keeping started.

Blondie

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Did Rutheford way back then keep conduct records as well? Or just "field service" records?

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JW Woman Sentenced in Dog Attack Case

by ezekiel3 in

source: http://www.thederrick.com/stories/01202005-4006.shtml

the derrick and news herald

woman sentenced in dog attack case

inquirer

I read the article pretty quickly, but I suppose these Witnesses would defend her to the "highest heaven." That dumb dog killed someone you know!

She needs some education! Fined! Or something! Getting support from her "Kingdom Hall buddies," is not the right attitude.

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They can not copyright the term "Watchtower" by their own words

by jwsons in

in any circumsatance, they can not copyright the using of "watchtower" (like in "watchtower observer" or "quotes-watchower") for the term "watchtower in not for themselves.

that's what they themselves wrote in the proclaim book (wts 1993, page 48, footnote): .

"the expression "watch tower" is not unique to russelll's writings or to jehovah's witnesses.

inquirer

Damn right they can't copyright that name! You can't copyright names like McDonald's or objects like watch towers or watchtower... I don't know how it should be written... but the point is, you can't copyright that term Watchtower! What a blow up!

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They can not copyright the term "Watchtower" by their own words

by jwsons in

in any circumsatance, they can not copyright the using of "watchtower" (like in "watchtower observer" or "quotes-watchower") for the term "watchtower in not for themselves.

that's what they themselves wrote in the proclaim book (wts 1993, page 48, footnote): .

"the expression "watch tower" is not unique to russelll's writings or to jehovah's witnesses.

inquirer

Sorry if I all heated up! I just hate it when people try and copyright "common words!"

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How long have they been keeping records for?

by inquirer in

sorry with all these threads, but this is something that i detest!

flaming records!

:(

inquirer

Also, didn't Jesus say not to keep anything in secret?

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How long have they been keeping records for?

by inquirer in

sorry with all these threads, but this is something that i detest!

flaming records!

:(

inquirer

Sorry with all these threads, but this is something that I detest! FLAMING RECORDS! :(

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JW's and records

by frozen one in

this is a bit of an expansion on the above thread.... if memory serves (which is questionable), it seems that i read or heard that if a witness had employment which made them privy to files at work and if they saw something in the files that may be evidence of "wrong doing" that they were obligated to report the information to the elders.

for example, if a dub worked at a video store and saw that another witness had been renting r rated movies or (gasp) porn, the elders needed to know this.

or maybe a witness worked at a hospital and had access to medical files, the elders would need to know if anyone had been treated for vd, had a forbidden blood treatment, or if a sister had an abortion.

inquirer

IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE!

I myself couldn't give a flying toss what was in someone's records. You only LIVE ONCE, you know. I don't think you should judge people on what happened in the past! Most people are so boring you know, you don't need to know anything because we are all human and we have so much things in common.

I used to think to myself "boy, I am the only one that thinks about subject a in that sort of way." But with the Internet, you find out that other people like the same stuff as you! Happens all the time!

Jehovah is the best record keeper. Don't they think that?

Do you think the WTS keeps records due to "outside evil influence?"

by inquirer in

someone said to me recently that the jw stuff they teach is true, but maybe the reason why they are corrupt (and keep records on people) is because of the evil outside influence?

but i was thinking to myself lately that when the jw's were in the nazi concentration camps -- those jw's died for what they believed in.

they were good witnesses.

inquirer

Someone said to me recently that the JW stuff they teach is true, but maybe the reason why they are corrupt (and keep records on people) is because of the evil outside influence?

But I was thinking to myself lately that when the JW's were in the Nazi concentration camps -- those JW's died for what they believed in. They were GOOD WITNESSES. Shouldn't the WTS keep the "congregation clean" and rather let the "JW religion die" rather than letting it being corrupted with record keeping? I know... I seem to have a thing about this lately, but to me (and a lot of you people would agree) that record keeping is bad. So I guess I have answered my own question then. But what are YOUR (us "ex Witnesses" know what it means in capitals - ha ha ha) thoughts on this?

If these Witnesses really loved Jehovah, they would close it down tomorrow, or destroy all records pertaining to PRIVATED INFORMATION, right? Why can't they become martyrs like first-century Christians. Every Christian everywhere should die what they believe in rather than let something become corrupted like that.

This is worse than the "cold Witness" attitude. I could be a Witness and put up with this sort of thing. Because they do this, I don't think they are Christian. They are no LESS CHRISTIAN than those they put the finger at and say they AREN'T CHRISTIAN. It seems to me these people are apart of Christendom as well.

WHERE ARE THE REAL CHRISTIANS? (Seriously.)

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses keep records on people?

by inquirer in

i have known some people (i dont' know if it's true or not) [and i am the kind of person that doesn't like to cause trouble] who have said that jehovah's witnesses keep tabs/records on people.

all the things they have done like if they got babtized, personal problems/experiences, arguments they may had with people, and just their general conduct as well.

have any people here found out about a "black book" where they keep records on you?

inquirer

Thanks for all your help. Even though other churches keep records, I thought that the whole idea of being a Witness was to be a "shining light" in the world. Keeping records is VERY BAD! The only records that they should keep is records pertaining to how many hours of fields service you have done -- all that sort of thing! They shouldn't keep records on conduct! As said before, I have asked people in the past bout it a couple of times, and now I hear it on here... and what can I say? It's all true? They should be "obeying Caesar" in regards to records. If Caesar says no, then they shouldn't! People are concerned with privacy these days, you know. You go to the ATM here and there and everywhere and the bank knows where you've gone and at what time and all that. They know who deposits money in your account as well. The WTS should respect people's privacy and realize that they should be protecting their sheeps' privacy because they should know it's bad, no. 1. No. 2 it's a real problem these days anyway.

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses keep records on people?

by inquirer in

i have known some people (i dont' know if it's true or not) [and i am the kind of person that doesn't like to cause trouble] who have said that jehovah's witnesses keep tabs/records on people.

all the things they have done like if they got babtized, personal problems/experiences, arguments they may had with people, and just their general conduct as well.

have any people here found out about a "black book" where they keep records on you?

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Midget-Sasquatch

Inquirer

The publisher's record card and files are on everyone, even the elders. They track the exact same data. I forgot to mention that on the card it would also state whether you're a ministerial servant or elder and the date you were appointed as such.

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Right. Thanks. Do you think that in other religious groups would do this to? Such as Catholics, 7th Days, Muslims, Buhddists...

Someone told me that they didn't like the record keeping but they thought maybe they are doing it because of "evil people," "outsiders" who are forcing them to keep records? Is there any merit in saying that?