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  The GB, Evil incarnate, or just trapped like the rest?

  by daystar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you believe that the wbts is a high control group, cult, or whatever, do you also believe that the design, the isolationist doctrines and subtle mind control is all on purpose?

  or did it just sort of evolve that way?.

  in other words, do you think russell, rutherford and the governing body purposefully look(ed) for, or make(made) up, biblical evidence to support controlling doctrines?

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  inquirer

  Big Dog,
  
  I think Kid-A pretty much nailed it.
  
  Inquirer -- I agree!
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  The GB, Evil incarnate, or just trapped like the rest?

  by daystar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you believe that the wbts is a high control group, cult, or whatever, do you also believe that the design, the isolationist doctrines and subtle mind control is all on purpose?

  or did it just sort of evolve that way?.

  in other words, do you think russell, rutherford and the governing body purposefully look(ed) for, or make(made) up, biblical evidence to support controlling doctrines?

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  If I could, I'd argue with this Russell runt -- I'd have a two words or three to say to him! I'd say "thanks for runining people's lives, you runt." It all went downhill since Chuck died. :(
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  churches appreciating each other

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday i saw something i've never seen before.

  a protestant church on the left side of the road has a sign saying it's their 50th anniversary.

  there is a rc church right across the street.

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  ozziepost, evanescence, Shining One

  I've read your posts, and thanks for your thoughts.*

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  * I read the other posts as well, but particularly noticed these ones.
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  tnangel73 is no longer known as a Jehovah's Witness

  by tnangel73 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they announced that tonight.

  a couple of weeks ago, the elders told me through my mother i had one week to talk to them.

  they announced that tonight.

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  inquirer

  {GET THE EVIL TONE RIGHT!} tnangel73 IS no longerknown as a Jehovah's Witness.

  I distinctly remember ages ago that there used to be certain people that did the "big sigh" sound effect in the audience when this happened! Don't you all remember?
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  The most EERIE passage in a Watchtower Publication leads to atheisim

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the most eerie and fascinating passage i ever read in any of the jw literature (literature??

  ) was in the red book, life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god.

  i wish i had written the quote down.

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  When you say, "Something had to have designed all of this" you immediately forget the most essential fact, but, I'll repeat it to you:

  WOULD YOU INSIST THIS APPLIES TO GOD TOO?

  You ignore the essential flaw in your own insistence and go on to other items you've listed.

  Unless you can address this hole in your demand for design authorship beyond God--it is meaningless as a proof of necessity altogether.

  Think about it.

  Terry

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  inquirer -- But in the Bible, God doesn't have a beginning -- that's the concept we don't understand because no one has experienced it! This is something not talked about in the Bible.

  I ask you this: How do you know you are dead or in a deep sleep? "Get Smart" Don Adams died recently. He probably had a feeling he was going to die -- but really he is conscious of nothing. He's in God's memory. But Don himself doesn't know his dead -- we'd have to "wake him up out of his sleep" and tell him he was dead -- But then he would be alive then! To a lot of people, and in particular atheists this is all there is -- no resurrection (Sadducee philosophy) and when you are dead you are dead.

  I don't believe that God is all-knowing in the absolute sense! He can see things happening according to what path we choose at the time we we choose it! He doesn't know that we are going to do something unless we decide our destination even if it's only in the mind! But when we think it, he knows and starts to know every possible combination we will do. Everything has been mapped out on God's infinitely big computer -- it's like with Gmail, if any of you have that account, there's is more megabytes being added to it all the time so you never have to delete your files. Same with God -- his database gets bigger and bigger according to all the things he creates. When he created earth, it was quite a project because there's human life there and so he had to add a serious amount of information to his database. He could eternally add information to this "database" because look at how infinitely big the universe is, he could just add another mainframe-sized room where he wants -- he doesn't have to pay someone for extra buildings! lol But does that mean that God once didn't have a "computer database?"* No, since he is eternal he would have always been equipped to handle more network traffic when it got busy. Since he is eternal, he's always been there infinitely in the pass -- a concept we don't understand.

  I don't know why the Watchtower said "There was a time before He began creating that Jehovah was alone and, much as any adolescent about to embark upon what life will ultimately be, He had to choose what He would become." Sounds like it was written by an atheist! He should have been kicked out for writing such crap! I'd love to find that book! I am not a JW anymore so I guess I don't have to worry about stuff like that anymore. :) May as well through the Bible away if you are going to say garbage like that!

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  *Footnote: I think the "matrix concept" on Gallifrey (Doctor Who) matches what I am saying here. But if I said that God and his Angels (or the timelords and the presidents for that matter) lived on a planet -- that would be too Mormon like which they believe God exists on Koleb! The JW's believed something similar to this as well!
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  Feeling sooo isolated.....

  by Michelle5480 in

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  hello to all, i was raised pretty much as a jw and became one of the super goodie two shoes type, you know......didnt even swear when i was alone.. im now disfellowshipped and since i followed the guideline of not having friends outside the organization i now find myself completely alone, my friends are all jw's and none of them can talk to me.

  so now i feel lost....on another planet almost .

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  inquirer

  On this forum you won't feel alone.
  
  Play that Roy Orberson song "Your not alone... your NOT ALONE, YOUR NOT ALONE... ANYMORE WHOOOOO HOOOOO........ " {song finishes}
  
  I am not trying to annoy you, I just think it's a very suitable song! :)
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  hello, i'm new :)

  by MRSJG in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new to the forum, new to the truth.

  trying to get a better understanding of what i'm looking for.. .

  i'm a young married mother of three beatuiful babies.

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  inquirer

  At least give some time to think about joining this organization.
  
  Swim between the flags and don't go in the deep end -- But don't drown.
  
  Drive the car around the block to make sure it suits you -- It's an awful lot of money if you decide you don't like it!
  
  When you cross the street look left, right and left again -- Don't just walk to the other side -- you might get killed if you are not looking.
  
  If someone gives you a glass of water and you knowing it had a tiny amount of poison in it -- would you drink it? (To use some of their expressions)
  
  Don't go "Good doggie" -- it might bite you and then you get stiches!
  
  
  You get the idea? Have a think about what you are doing.
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  churches appreciating each other

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday i saw something i've never seen before.

  a protestant church on the left side of the road has a sign saying it's their 50th anniversary.

  there is a rc church right across the street.

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  I am utterly disgusted with this friendship with each other!
  
  The Protestants and Catholics are suppose to be worse enemies! Why in God's world did the Protestants have their own reformation and now they can't stop hugging each other!
  
  Protestant comes from the word "protest," and by these sort of actions, they are going against the original reasons why they adapted their own separate theology in the first place!
  
  What's the point of having Protestant and Catholic? If it doesn't matter what church you go to -- why have any at all? It defeats it's purpose!
  
  You wouldn't tell your customers and McDonald's "Oh it's ok if you go the Hungry Jacks," they are the bloody competition! :(
  
  Protestands are as weak as dishwater these days! I see them with big Catholic crosses and Apocrypha in their Bibles and a former leader of the Anglican church (Mark Jensen -- I think his name was) went to the Vatican and said "I'm going to the head office," It's like as if they are still apart of the Catholic Church! It's so sad!
  
  May as well be pagan -- It doesn't matter, does it?
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  Sect or cult?

  by Cady in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i finally decided to get my a** to the library and read some real research on cults.

  the book i'm starting with is "psychodynamic perspectives on religion, sect and cult.

  in the introduction they mention margaret thaler singer's definition of a destructive cult as an organization in which:a leader claims divinity or special relationship with god.

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  inquirer

  They are a cult and a sect. But "cult" describes them better!
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  Paintball and Lazertag - Can True Christians Play?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend in my congregation enjoys playing paintball from time to time.

  others play lazertag.

  now, while these may imitate the "concepts of war", has there been any society comments on these games?

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  Jehovah's Witnesses can't play them. :D