i was sitting in my car, finishing an egg mcmuffin before going to the grocery store when i noticed a dubbie going around talking to people in the parking lot.
i thought the chances were good she would approach me, and i decided i was going to do more than decline to take the pamphlet.. after i verified she was a jw, i said that i was a former member.
i said "do you know what the awake said in 1969?
Thank you for saying this. I am sure you killed there day of service to jehoover-
I always ask those smug JWs this question, "are you happy as a JW?"
if there is any hesitation or strained look on their face when the give the obligatory ,YES
I tell them, "You need to stop lying, you're not fooling anyone"
You might be surprised how many JWs don't argue the point and just leave-, defeated.
Some have been away from the KH for a very long time- -
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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wasblind, I also mentioned that if she divorces me, I will need that pension to support a new wife. I am sure she had visions of me being skewered and broiled alive at armageddon-- sorry to disappoint her and everyone at the KH, but I will die of old age, just like they will.
Yes, a good lawyer is a good idea-- have a conference with one, just so you aren't caught flat footed- I knew I was in trouble when my wife dumped me in a parking lot and drove straight to the lawyer- I had to call a christian friend to come and drive me the 20 miles back to my house- of course I was locked out and the deputy was waiting for me--
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Power is all that counts-- I still remember like it was yesterday sitting in the lawyers conference room in 1989 and my wife's divorce lawyer going over their "demands"-- and she wants 1/2 of your pension. I played the poor victim to the max-- I looked her straight in the eyes--" if you are so worried about the future, that you think the end isn't coming soon, that you will need a retirement pension, then maybe you should stay married to me". She turned to her lawyer and smugly replied, " Let him have the pension, it's not that much, I won't don't need it."
-- and she was right, she didn't need it- she quietly left the KH 5 years later ( the elders started asking what she was doing dating worldly men and going to a C&W dance hall), went back to school, became a degreed registered nurse and is now a nursing director at a large nursing home-- she makes big bucks-
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Do you want to stay and make things work?
Hmm, seen this before, does that mean bending over and letting the JWs run the show in your house, while you keep your mouth shut? Wifey goes to the KH and everyone says, you poor sister, I don't know how you live with an apostate- don't let him say anything against jehoovers organization- be loyal to the truth- you have to come to every meeting or you will get weak, etc,etc. Listen to the elders, they know what is best--
IMO, you need to get the wife to agree to worldly marriage counseling and have her explain to the counselor why they are treating their spouse like they are ''dead" and won't let them openly speak their mind and read there own books in the home. Unfortunately, this sort of marriage counseling can make the JW see they don't want to work things out and compromise- so they go ahead and get a divorce. Better to get it out in the open now- the longer the JWs work on the wife the more entrenched and defiant she will become--
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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ignore my advice ! empty any joint a/cs pack all her stuff and leave it in the doorway change all locks. but--get in quick--pre-emptive strike. i learned all this the hard way.
bigmac-- good advice, for someone with cajones-- you don't find that here often, otherwise they would have already taken charge of the situation and wouldn't have come here to have the faders commiserate over them.
I suggest a helpline number for after the wife does the lockout/restraining order on you first-- call 1-800-cry-baby-
i am already reading that some plan to drop their medical insurance coverage on january 1st and just pay the penalty-.
an individual with $30,000 annual income would pay a $300 penalty in 2014, $600 in 2015 and $750 in 2016.. an individual with $50,000 annual income would pay a $500 penalty in 2014, $1,000 in 2015 and $1,250 in 2016.. an individual earning $100,000 a year would pay a $1,000 penalty in 2014, $2,000 in 2015 and $2,500 in 2016.. here is your insurance subsidy calculator-.
http://healthreform.kff.org/subsidycalculator.aspx#incomeagetables.
The people who could benefit from an economic crash are waiting on the sidelines with money to buy our foreclosed assets for pennies on the dollar- which will turn a lot of people into landless serfs for the rest of their life-- I think Obamacare was a trojan horse , designed to deliberately crash our economy. You can make a lot of money, if you know ahead of time when the bottom will drop out-- 2014, the clock starts ticking.
i'll start.
i'm low on friends, for various reasons.
scientists poke their calculators into everything, and the number of friends we can have is one of them.
A true friend is someone who you can borrow a $100 from, no questions asked-- so in answer to that question-- one for sure and two or three maybes.
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Since it's all over between you two- I suggest you move a new girlfriend into your place asap- then she will be the one having to move out, not you.
a few days ago i watch the old bill murray movie "what about bob" with my family and realized that i'm in the same situation as dr. leo marvin (played by richard dreyfus).
for those who have never seen this movie, dr. marvin is a psychiatrist who is unable to shake off an obsessed patient who manages to track him down during his family vacation.
the patient befriends the family who see him like a charming man, when in fact he is driving dr. leo crazy.
I see you are like Bob though- hanging to the bottom of the car- if you let go and be yourself, your JW family will leave you by the side of the road--
