Posts by moshe

I worked with a 58 year former, marine/boat mechanic who took this 2 year community college course in Nuclear power technology- The power company hired him as an elctrician apprentice at $29/hr- he got two years credit for his degree. - Every graduate was hired by Florida Power-

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There are really TWO Watchtower Societies

by Terry in

with cedars release of leaked watchtower new light "adjusting" understanding of "who" the faithful and discreet slave is.....i am struck by something which similarly struck me back in 1967.in 1967 i had just been imprisoned.

being a male jehovah's witness during the viet nam war meant certain "issues" arose affecting a decision to respond to the military draft.i have told the story before.

but, i'd like go at it from another angle in view of the above mentioned new light about the fds fora different reason.it was first in 1967 i began to discover that there are two watchtower societies.let me explain why i say this and for what reasons.first of all, anybody standing in a kingdom hall or sitting in a seat at a vast international assembly saw people they would identify as all on the same page.

moshe

Thank you Terry.

It's too bad that JWs also have two brains. One that works by logic on the job and when they balance their checking account. The other brain works on Watchtower circular logic and keeps them on the KH's treadmill to "be a loyal/active JW" , despite all the doctrinal flip-flops and changes they see every year.

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Congregation had to relocate Memorial...thanks to me

by Shepherd Book in

so, the two local congregations were planning to hold their memorial together at 7:30 at the local community center, but they had to make a last-minute change to their own hall, and i'm pretty sure it was because of me.. let me explain.... at work on monday afternoon, a co-worker returned from her lunchbreak and showed me the memorial invitation that was waiitng in her door when she went home for lunch.

i noticed the sticker on the back indicated the memorial was being held, not at the local hall, but at the community center.

from a past (non-jw) event i attended there, i knew they didn't allow alcohol (unless you pay for security guards), so i wrote to the center's coordinator:.

moshe

at the risk of bring flamed, I thnk this kind of crap gives us apostates a bad name.

hahaha- and just how, pray tell, would an apostate get a good name in the KH?- however, you can be a nice and compliant apostate by being their doormat.

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First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower

by cedars in

a trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.

my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.

watch this space!.

moshe

The WT has really stepped into the quick sand by claiming the GB is the F&DS- if they wiggle around anymore trying to explain all the obvious contradictions to this new dogma, they will just sink up to their necks in trouble.

The JWs are all blockheads anyway when it comes to logic. As long as the WT leaves their wallets alone the brothers will accept any new WT teaching that lets them continue to believe that JWs can cheat death and live forever as perfect humans on a paradise Earth.

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The results of the 2012 survey are published, and the new 2013 survey is now online!

by cedars in

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for those of you who are following our annual jw global survey, you will be pleased to know that the results have been published, and are available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2012-jw-survey-results.pdf.

i would urge as many as possible to take part in our new survey, which has been enhanced to implement some of the suggestions we received from those taking part in last year's poll.. anyway, i hope you find the 2012 results helpful and enjoy taking part in our new survey.. by all means share your thoughts on the results on this thread, not to mention any suggestions that will help make the 2014 survey better still!

cedars.

moshe

Three quarters of all inactive Witness voters experience "pre-emptive shunning" even though they are not disfellowshipped

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Only 5% of active Witness voters agreed with ALL Watchtower beliefs and practices

This shows me that the people who took this survey proabably weren't the JWs who were doing all this shunning, which means that very few faithful JWs took this survey.-for if 95% of the active JWs disagreed with all the WT dogma, they would be smart enough to disregard the shunning part , too.

Most of the fading JWs here are pretending to be active witnesses- phoney time reports, etc, and as such could categorize themselves as active JWs on this poll . Just how many of the JWs who stumbled onto cedars poll are real disenchanted JWs is anyone's guess.

Someone should attempt a random survey of JWs near a summer convention- like at a hotel and report those results for comparison.

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Our Daughter is 13 today!

by cantleave in

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and to think i was told that armageddon would be here before i was 13!.

happy birthday heather .

moshe

Congrats and Good luck!- our girl turned 13 last August- it's been a roller coaster year- she starts high school in the fall. 13 is when they can legally join facebook, get their own Email account, twitter, etc.-- I think she has finally figured out that facebook is just trouble.twitter is for old people. So far she hasn't reactivated the last one that was cancelled , after some "problems" - Girls are mean- emotionally mean and back stabbers- for the most part guys just talk about "stuff".

a heads up- a new app called snapchat should be avoided at all cost- so far she hasn't asked for it, and I plan to NOT let her get started on that one.

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Tips for my Job interview today

by whathehadas in

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i got a interview for today a few days ago.

the interview is for orkin, a pest control company.

i haven't had a interview in a while and hopefully i don't get nervous.

moshe

I guess they want to find out , if you are a born killer- I doubt they hire many followers of Budda.

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The koolaid sipping aint far off now....

by sosoconfused in

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so today after the meeting an older pioneer sister was outside as people were talking about the wonderful experience from the yearbook of the family in nigeria or wherever that went to the meeting and the plane destroyed their neighborhood.

but since they were at the metting they lived..... .

so she says, "you heard about the ones that died in a bus crash on the way to the convention????

moshe

Confirmation bias= the JWs will see what agrees with their religion and ignore what causes them mental anguish.

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bye

by Hortensia in

pontoon's topic "an old friend" was nice.

i thought of my best friends when in the org.

and sent one final email:.

moshe

I'm still the same old friend and I'm here if you ever need me."

My best buddy from school- one room country school all the way through high school dropped off my radar about 20 years ago- he was a truck driver and we met up as he passed through town on a run- had a great evening together. Due to moves we lost touch- last year I remembered his wife's first name and ran a people search using her name and located my old friend- we talked on the phone for 30 minutes. He blamed me for not staying in touch- he said I moved (well he did , too) and he didn't have any way to locate me- "did you think about calling my IBEw union hall and asking them, if they could pass your phone number on to me?"- oops never thought of that!!-

Anyway, we have totally moved on in different directions and he implied I was dumb for converting to my wife's Jewish faith. I suspect that old friend of yours is different than you remember- don't worry about them anymore.

- My HS friend has my phone and email now, but I know he won't be contacting me- unless I win the Lottery,