I had a bookstudy group for several months as a 20 yo MS, they were a elder short of a deck of cards.
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What Was Your Greatest "Privilege" In The Organization?
by minimus inwas it being able to join the theocratic ministry school?
being a regular pioneer?
"handling microphones"?
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Fighting experience?
by bebu inthe other night our son confessed that he had been in an after-school fight last friday.
some small kid was irritated with my son (who's nearly 14) and called on the services of a big friend to beat up my son.
(i actually saw the fight (sort of) as i drove past the school that day to go do errands, and pondered on whether i should stop... i didn't... because i actually wasn't sure it was a fight; it was a lot of kids in a loose crowd).
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zman
Let them go, I never won a fight till I was almost out of high school. The worst was one I was 'almost' going to win till my mom broke it up (in this case the kid whose mom breaks it up is the automatic loser no matter what ) then in front of 10 other kids offered to sew the kids jacket back together!!!!!!!!!!!!! Needless to say I could not look anyone in the eye at school for weeks 'mommas boy' was a little embarassed! Dad the PO finially told me I could start defending myself as I looked like I was on the bad end of a Tyson fight about one meeting a month. My advice is let them fight at school, probably no weapons and it will not get to far. The ones to watch are the set time in the back alley fights tell him never to go one of these most times turn out bad.
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A Fest Or Test?
by Englishman in.
i'd say a fest, but i've been wrong before.
fingers crossed.. englishman.
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zman
given a choice......... "FEST!" (was that the right answer?) lmao
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A Fest Or Test?
by Englishman in.
i'd say a fest, but i've been wrong before.
fingers crossed.. englishman.
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zman
Not to appear immensely stupid or out of the loop (as I often am) but what are we talking about???
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You know your an Apostate when
by pleaseer2001 inok jesika and i started this in chat so here it goes,.
you know your an apostate when..........worldy is a word used for your friends.
you now your an apostate when ............your parents call after five years....and say anything new!.
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zman
You know your an apostate when you think Valis is ok to hang out with!!!!!!!!!!! lmao!!!!!!!
You know your an apostate when you AND your dog chase the jws out of your yard!
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The Most Unkind Cut From An Elder/ MS..
by Englishman in.
this was mine:.
"you're a brand rescued from the burning..in israel you would have been stoned to death..get down on your hands and knees, get your head hard down on the carpet and beg jehovah for forgiveness".. they don't tell you about that sort of thing when you first have a bible study.. englishman.. .
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zman
Well mine was not what was said or done to me but what I did to another as a MS. Some of my best friends father was disfellowshiped, he had been the greatest guy in the world to me. He had a pool and a pool table so the congragation kids would have somewhere to hang out at. He also would take us out on his boat, just a real friendly good person. He was the type to meet you with a handshake and pull you into a hug! Well he had got in some trouble and was dfed, then I saw him at the bank he came and got in line right behind me. Being just appointed a MS I was as pompous and arrogant as they come. I turned to him looked him up and down slowly raised my nose and turned my head in disgust with out a word. As I walked to the counter I realize he left the bank, at the time I felt justified and rightious. Now having been dfed I realize the horrible action I took. I was never able to apoligize to him, he was re about the same time I was dfed. So if you ever read this Don Iam very sorry I had no right to treat someone as nice as you like that.
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zman
mnb77 ....... The justice you speak of is condeming children for their parents sins??? Picture yourself as a all powerfull being, you think you might be able to come up with a better answer than killing off people? And the point on praise and worship, God put us in this situation right? he could stop it, but he lets it continue. He then demands worship from our sad state that he has imposed on us, because he then offers a way out. Justice is not giving imperfect direction to a imperfect people, give us a dam pillar of fire then I will be the first one in the door.
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zman
I just recently tried to read the bible through again, this time with a clear non jw view. I made it to Psalms, how can a 'loving god kill nations of women and children? This really disillusioned me to the concept of worshiping a 'thing' that can just destroy people at a whim. The only thing reading the bible did for me was further convince me that god if he does exist is not worthy of my praise.
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Why is an elder removed?
by purplesofa inthere is an elder at my hall that was removed last week.. he was not df, he still is in good standing.
he did not request it.. how can an elder be removed?.
what is the process?.
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zman
Elders can be removed but not otherwise disiplined for a number of reasons. I knew of the following.
1. Acused of abuse by wife, he later, much later was dfed for it.
2. Did not properly secure confidential files ( his teenage stepdaughter got into them).
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Wooooww this is interesting
by crizlee ina pre-human civilization .
source: the ra material/the law of one series (http://www.llresearch.org/) .
from: http://www.universal-vision.com/articles/et_contact.html .
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zman
I'll just watch E.T. or Close Encounters, and call it good.