Evilforce I love the veracity in which you write...can always be guaranteed a brutally honest and amusing read when your avatar apears on a thread;-)) froglett
Posts by Frog
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25has this happened to you???
by donald in.
back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald
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Seeker4 Invited to a Committee Meeting Tonight
by Seeker4 inyup, they are going ahead with it.
i spent most of yesterday, sunday, writing what turned out to be a 10 page letter to the body of elders about why i feel they are out of line in seeking to disfellowship me (for those new to this situation, i've been seperated from my wife and living with another woman for the past six months.
i've not been an active witness for a decade.).
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Frog
Hey there Seeker4, so are you going to deliver the letter in person, or just let it do the talking for you? I expect that they probably won't give your letter the time it deserves, it'll just be an opportunity for the 'boys club' to catchup and talk about everything and anything else. I suggest you not go down without a fight, hopefully you will have put them in their place threatening them with individual lawsuits, and I know of cases where this has worked.
What a turmultous week you've had then(((hugs))). A week that you have to go through, just remember that no week in your life will unlikely ever be this monumentally difficult again. Whatever happens put it behind you and continue on with your good life:-)
Take care, and do keep us updated. froglett
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has this happened to you???
by donald in.
back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald
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Frog
Hey there Donald, in my opinion it's never too late to get a decent education. I've just returned to University and many of my peers are well into the 40s/50s. A degree isn't always about putting it to use in your career, it can just be about doing it for yourself, you owe it to yourself to give it a try if you can. My dad just turned 50 (jw) and I know that he would benefit greatly from going back to study, I imagine how daunting it must be though when you're a little older.
All the best, and keep posting! froglett
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When you're fed-up and Miserable.......
by ScoobySnax ini just spent 5 days down in devon in the south west of england and had a fantastic time unwinding and seeing my 2 nans, catching up with my cousins, having a couple of beers in a pub with my extended family the other side of the country.
it was fantastic to see them all again.
i'm a sucker for being made a fuss of.
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Frog
I jump on the forum, or do something drastic like start planning my next 3rd world trip:-)) froglett
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I just turned in my master's thesis
by ChrisVance inafter working on it for a year.
now the judicial comittee thesis committee has two weeks to decide if it's good enough.
if not i don't graduate until they say it's good enough.
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Frog
Bravo! You've done bloody well to get this far, and now that you have I'm sure it's all clear skies ahead:-) I know all too well what a challenge thesis writing is...since you've now some spair time perhaps you'd like to make a start on my next one on the Sociology of War??!
All the best, and let us know how it all turns out:-) froglett
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"Would You Agree With Me That Satan The Devil Is A BASTARD?"
by minimus inthat question was asked by an elderly brother who pioneered and he was a little senile too----he'd ask every person in the hall.
it didn't matter whether they were elders, pioneers, old ones, young ones, new ones----everyone!
he would even incorporate that question in his comments at the meetings!.......good question that no one seemed to want to answer.
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Frog
"who is Satan; a concept of "evil" developed by mankind and given human attributes ( the term "bastard"; or other definitions of the ultimate "evil")" J Franklin
"the Devil was the original true thinker. He realized Jehovah as a self serving, arrogant, and biased God. He felt he could do a better job". Dustin
Both excellent comments guys, I believe the Devil is entirely a man made construct to curb the people's instinct for originality and freedom of thought. Froglett
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Hi, I'm new
by JE1234 inhi iv'e been lurking around for a few weeks.
getting the nerve to post something..i'm from ny.
iv'e been inactive for 8 years.
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Frog
I think we're all a little curious to know the meaning behind JE1234?! and welcome to the board, I lurked for years before posting, just take from it what you need, and add to it what you can, and you will do well:-)
c u round, froglett
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Were You a Little Prude JW?
by minimus inwere you a prude as a jw?
are you still one?
prudes, (especially jws) are so judgmental.
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Frog
I was prudish in thought but not in deed...that's for sure;-)
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Lonely JW Ex Hubbie
by Lehaa injust got back from picking up my kids from my ex.. he'd called me to come pick them up early as he was trying to get some work finished and our daughter was cranky and getting in the way.
not a problem, it was not his weekend to have them, he's had them to help me out.. any way i get there and he looked terrible, realy sad and beaten.. i said he looked really bummed, he said he was and had been for a while.
i asked him if he had anyone to talk to and he said no.. i really felt sorry for him, really felt like inviting him round for dinner and a bottle of wine but knew that was not a good idea.. we stood there talking for about an hour.
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Hey there Lehaa, it's really great that you have such an amicable relationship with the father of your children:-) You're right though, you can't really help him through this unless he seriously wants your help. Perhaps if you can leave it open for him, tell him that you will always be there to lend a hearing ear, but this is something he really needs to figure out for himself. The more pressure he feels from you (inviting him to an apostafest or the forum would be way to intense I think) the more scared he will become, it could frighten him to pull his bootstraps right up and get back into the faith in full swing. He knows now how well you're doing, he can no doubt see the peace in your face and your voice. That memory will stay with him for a long timet:-) froglett
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I hate living with effing psycho parents
by tsunami_rid3r ini have a mom who would rather me not go to college, keep me locked up in the house, and just serve jehovah.
i have a weak dad, instead of her being subjected to him, he's subjected to her.
he's on my side on most of the part but he's just weak on setting her straight.
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Frog
hey matey, your family life sounds just as disfunctional as mine was as a kid from a jw family...but believe me all this will come to pass, it's not been that many years since I moved out of home, but it all seems a distant memory now. I know it's easy to bag your ol' mum, but remember at the heart of it even if her own slightly twisted way she only wants what is best for you. If you show your mum that you're a strong individual who know's what is best for himself, then she will develop some respect in your right to make your own decisions. There's no need to feel like you need to rebel against every small thing, it's not worth it in the long run. As for college you should work on trying to get yourself through college if you can, and ask your dad for some assistance whenever he can provide it. You will feel so much more empowered if you can take responsibility for your own life.
Remember at the heart of it your mum loves you, you will start to appreciate this more in 5 or so years froglett