oh well, if Antartica as magestic as it is, is the arse end of the world then perhaps bein at the bottum aint necessarily the rough end of the stick...I'm off to turn my vintage globe on its head!
Posts by Frog
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3Australia downunder, or right side up?!...the burning question;)
by Frog inthe upsidedown map page
it needn't be a eurocentric world!
it came as a surprise to me after over 20 years of seeing "normal" world maps to come across an upside down one.
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Australia downunder, or right side up?!...the burning question;)
by Frog inthe upsidedown map page
it needn't be a eurocentric world!
it came as a surprise to me after over 20 years of seeing "normal" world maps to come across an upside down one.
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Frog
The Upsidedown Map Page
It needn't be a Eurocentric world!
It came as a surprise to me after over 20 years of seeing "normal" world maps to come across an upside down one. The most surprising thing was that I found it surprising. It is completely artificial that we have North at the top of a map.
The convention came a few centuries ago when Northern hemisphere, European navigators started using the North star and the magnetic compass. Before that, the top of the map was to the East which is where the word orientation comes from.
Rotated Maps
Then a friend bought me an Australian map that was on sale in Japan. Not only does it have South at the top, but it is also "rotated" so that China, Indonesia and Australia are in the centre rather than Europe and West Africa.
Hard to believe that I'd not only been educated into one stereotype about maps, but even after learning that stereotype had failed to spot the other one.
I'm interested in Upsidedown Maps because they make me rethink the world. It's important to remember that there are people all over it. Since hanging one on my wall I've learnt geography again. You can reevaluate the world from scratch, as if it was a brand new alien landscape.
Indonesia looks like by far the most interesting place from orbit.
McArthur's Universal Corrective Map of the World has a fabulous history, made by an Australian who was tormented for coming from the "bottom of the world". It was the first modern south-up map, published in 1979. Read about it at ODT.
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Australian music.
by avishai ini love australian rock.
cruel sea, beasts of bourbon, nick cave, the church, dave graney, midnight oil, hell, even early inxs (don't change is one of the best songs ever written) and even some kiwi stuff, like split enz/crowded house.
so, for the ozzies on this board, what is it about oz that gives the music it's distinct sound.
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Frog
oh YES jwc! The Cat Empire are briliant fun. I saw them a few months back in Hobart, definitely no let down:)
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Australian music.
by avishai ini love australian rock.
cruel sea, beasts of bourbon, nick cave, the church, dave graney, midnight oil, hell, even early inxs (don't change is one of the best songs ever written) and even some kiwi stuff, like split enz/crowded house.
so, for the ozzies on this board, what is it about oz that gives the music it's distinct sound.
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Frog
whata bout 'Powerderfinger' Avashai? You must've heard of them? They're absolutel rock gods. They tour pretty often through the UK, Europe and of course oz...it disturbs me that there's a chance that you haven't even hear of them!
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New Upside-Down Christmas Tree
by professor in.
jw's can get these this year and show how anti-christmas they really are!
(it's real, we have 'em at target, too!).
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Frog
Wowa, for $600bucks that'd wanna be gold plated tinsel Beaut tree though, that's how we have em down under;)
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Simon & Garfunkel...
by Frog inmainly cause i've nothing much else to do, and cause i love it so much that i fell asleep to it on repeat last night, that i wanted so share the lyrics of my fave s&g tunesimon and garfunkel lyrics: flowers never bend with the rainfall .
through the corridors of sleep .
past the shadows dark and deep .
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Frog
For FMZ...
"Let us be lovers we'll marry our fortunes together."
"I've got some real estate here in my bag."
So we bought a pack of cigarettes and Mrs. Wagner pies
And we walked off to look for America
"Kathy," I said as we boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburgh
"Michigan seems like a dream to me now"
It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw
I've gone to look for America
Laughing on the bus
Playing games with the faces
She said the man in the gabardine suit was a spy
I said "Be careful his bowtie is really a camera"
"Toss me a cigarette, I think there's one in my raincoat"
"We smoked the last one an hour ago"
So I looked at the scenery, she read her magazine
And the moon rose over an open field
"Kathy, I'm lost," I said, though I knew she was sleeping
I'm empty and aching and I don't know why
Counting the cars on the New Jersey Turnpike
They've all gone to look for America
All gone to look for America
All gone to look for Americaxx
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Do you still *want* to believe?
by daniel-p inif the answer is "yes," please explain why.
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(i don't think this question needs explaining - i think you all know what i'm talking about.
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Frog
avishai's totally right of course, you can't put a price on real mental freedom. i'm not sure where you're at dan, but during the early stages of the transition I attempted to force myself to believe against my better judgement, but eventually the scales were tipped in favour of realism. Once the blindfold is lifted you feel such euphoria for what is factual that there's no chance of forcing yourself back into that old unsustainable mindset. This is one of the best quotes I've read on the forum today, so I've pinched it to put here...
When I believed as you do, I only read materials that agreed with me. I assumed I was seeing both sides because I was reading why the other side was wrong. But when I actually read both sides, using materials produced by both sides, I was able to make a decision for myself.
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Simon & Garfunkel...
by Frog inmainly cause i've nothing much else to do, and cause i love it so much that i fell asleep to it on repeat last night, that i wanted so share the lyrics of my fave s&g tunesimon and garfunkel lyrics: flowers never bend with the rainfall .
through the corridors of sleep .
past the shadows dark and deep .
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Frog
you must be quite a night cat Avishai bein up so late and all! S&G are supurb at singing me to sleep if I'm ever strugglin to nod off:) cheers, x
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Simon & Garfunkel...
by Frog inmainly cause i've nothing much else to do, and cause i love it so much that i fell asleep to it on repeat last night, that i wanted so share the lyrics of my fave s&g tunesimon and garfunkel lyrics: flowers never bend with the rainfall .
through the corridors of sleep .
past the shadows dark and deep .
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Frog
mainly cause I've nothing much else to do, and cause I love it so much that I fell asleep to it on repeat last night, that I wanted so share the lyrics of my fave S&G tune...it's nostalgic for me, reminds me of a time when I was real young and my folks were cool non-dub hippies who played S&G, Cat Stevens and Bob Dylan records to us:) so, tell me, am I alone in my admiration for S&G? Thought I'd ask, even though most of ya r probably sleepin
- Simon and Garfunkel Lyrics:
- Flowers Never Bend with the Rainfall
Through the corridors of sleep
Past the shadows dark and deep
My mind dances and leaps in confusion.
I don't know what is real,
I can't touch what I feel
And I hide behind the shield of my illusion.
So I'll continue to continue to pretend
My life will never end,
And flowers never bend
With the rainfall.
The mirror on my wall
Casts an image dark and small
But I'm not sure at all it's my reflection.
I am blinded by the light
Of God and truth and right
And I wander in the night without direction.
So I'll continue to continue to pretend
My life will never end,
And flowers never bend
With the rainfall.
It's no matter if you're born
To play the King or pawn
For the line is thinly drawn 'tween joy and sorrow,
So my fantasy
Becomes reality,
And I must be what I must be and face tomorrow.
So I'll continue to continue to pretend
My life will never end,
And flowers never bend
With the rainfall. -
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I love this board because.........................
by JH in.
because i made a very good friend here .
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Frog
Cause it's free entertainment!
Cause you people rock!
Tis a great place to develop a cyber crush, and if you're real lucky, pick-up;)
Cause all the hillarality helps to balance out the heavy jehoba stuff:)
