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  hi my peoples

  by IP_SEC in

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  just sayin hi.

  havent been around in a while.

  how yall been?.

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  stevenyc

  You still alive !!!
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  Creator or Evolution? Confused...

  by Newborn in

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  i don't feel i have to know the truth about how life started or where we're coming from etc, but can't help thinking abt it anyway now and then.

  guess it's only natural.. right now i feel really clueless and that i have too little knowledge abt the darwin, big bang theory.... (i was always taught by the dubs that darwin questioned his own theory...but was it really so?)..

  i have a close friend who's sure of the evolution but can really the complex and wonderful life and nature come abt by chance (even though he says it's not chance...).

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  Hey, Chalam / Stephen

  Continuing your line of thought it also states that the long and the short of it is this, evolution states that my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great,
  
  caused flu virus is currently causing an irritation and killing people.
  
  Want the vaccine?
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  JW lose more 'born in's' than other religions

  by stevenyc in

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  i have a question.

  last week on the bill maher show he quoted a recent statistic that jehovahs witnesses lose more of those born into the religion than any other religion in the usa.

  does anyone know where this statistic came from?

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  stevenyc

  Thanks Open Mind, this is what I was looking for.
  
  steve
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  JW lose more 'born in's' than other religions

  by stevenyc in

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  i have a question.

  last week on the bill maher show he quoted a recent statistic that jehovahs witnesses lose more of those born into the religion than any other religion in the usa.

  does anyone know where this statistic came from?

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  stevenyc

  Hi all, how's everyone doing?
  
  I have a question.
  
  Last week on the Bill Maher show he quoted a recent statistic that Jehovahs Witnesses lose more of those born into the religion than any other religion in the USA.
  
  Does anyone know where this statistic came from?
  
  
  steve
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  some questions on the book of genesis

  by evergreen in

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  decided to read the bible from start to finish as i have never done so properly.. some questions that i have and that some of you might be able to help me with are.

  1/ in genesis 1 it says god created the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th.

  in fact in vs 31 of chapter 1- with refernece to the 6th day the bible writer even refers to the evening and the morning of that paticular day.

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  stevenyc

  Nark,
  
  Your use of the English language is outstanding, and your usage of "literal" is correct. That is, context, non-metaphorical.
  
  steve
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  CHRISTMAS: December 25th DOES have a Biblical foundation! CHECK IT OUT!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  my mother and i were talking about christmas being in december, and how the christians felt it was truely a victory to have christ jesus birth still celebrated, unlike the pagan sun god that was celebrated by the pagans at the same time.

  we got to talking and realized that if you count backwards from when scholars really feel jesus was most likely really born (in september), and count back 280 days of pregnancy, it would actually be late december!!!

  could it be that the birthday was from the date of conception, not delivery???

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  I remember reading about how the Mithras celebrated this time as the "Birthday of the Sun". The Mithras pre-date the Christians, and were part of (if memory serves me correctly) Constantine's amalgamation of beliefs that gave us Christianity as we know it.
  
  Basically, the celebration of something around the solstice appears to be common event, up to and including today.
  
  Merry Christmas!
  
  
  steve
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  I'm Happy to Live in a Christian Nation

  by BurnTheShips in

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  so whats your opinion on the article?.

  burn.

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  :Burt Prelutsky isn’t a Christian. But even as a Jewish agnostic, he’s grateful not to live in a country where a teacher can get thrown in jail over the name of a teddy bear.
  
  Well yes.
  
  
  :Usually, when people say they’re not religious, they’re looking to pick a fight or at least start an argument.
  
  Nothing like a good uncorroborated statement. This guy could write for the watchtower. I wonder if the rest of his piece will be based on non-secuiar?
  
  :That’s probably because people who identify themselves as atheists or agnostics are often as dogmatic as Cotton Mather and have merely made a religion of their own non-belief.
  
  It looks like this guy is going to base his argument on full blown BS. Where is his evidence for this non-sequitur.
  
  :In my case, however, religion simply plays no role in my life. Or perhaps I should say institutionalized religion, seeing as how I very much subscribe to the Judeo-Christian value system. It’s the reason that I’m so grateful that two sets of Russian Jewish grandparents had the guts to pack up their kids and caboodle, and move to America.
  
  Another non-sequitar. If the writer subscribed to the "Judeo-Christian value system" as written by the "Judeo-Christian" bible writers, then he would be locked up. Our value system has less to do with the 'good-book' and more to do with the development of our society as a whole. An example would be why we now find it repugnant to stone people.
  I'm sure he's grateful that his grandparent came to America. But his rationale is misplaced.
  
  :Unfortunately, they and many others like them included in their baggage several hundred years worth of religious antagonisms. In far too many cases, these fears and prejudices, although initially well-founded, have been passed along like precious heirlooms from one generation to the next.
  
  Agreed.
  
  :Even among some of my friends and relatives, there are those who half-expect their Christian neighbors to start organizing pogroms any day now. They remain unconvinced that Hitler and the Nazis were pagans. And even when I point out that it was American and British soldiers, mainly Christians, who brought down the Third Reich and liberated the concentration camps, it often falls on deaf ears.
  
  Okay, so what is he getting at?
  
  :So, although I do not accept that we are all fallen creatures or that Jesus Christ died for my sins, I am thankful that I live in a Christian nation.
  
  Incorrect, he lives in a secular nation. A nation which allows the same freedom and rights to all people of all sways. Unlike, what is written in his "Judeo-Christian" bible. Take the account of Joshua to see how to treat people of a different faith. Or read Paul to understand the 'proper' place for a woman.
  
  :I realize that it’s only my dumb luck to be an American. The fact of the matter is that when it comes to one’s religion, it is usually determined by geography, not by choice. If you’re born in Japan, you are likely to be a Buddhist; if you’re born in Italy, you’re likely to be a Roman Catholic; in India, a Hindu; in England, an Anglican; in Utah, a Mormon; and in New York City, a liberal.
  
  Agreed. A persons God is regional based. See the CIA Factbook for proof.
  
  :This is not to suggest that, even in my eyes, all religions are equally valid.
  
  Well, what does he mean by "valid"? Valid, in that they demonstrate less bigotry and violence or valid in that what they preach is not delusional? Either way, he has no god-given right to quantify validity.
  
  :You’d have to be one of those non-judgmental pinheads who sound the trumpets for cultural diversity, pretending to believe that all nations, all religions and all ideologies, are equally good and equally bad.
  
  Which is why he loves to live in this SECULAR country, pinhead. All religions can give it a go here, but, America uses LAWS to determine whether the actions of individuals and groups are permitted. It bans and imprisons those which exceed these secular laws. Not the "Judeo-Christian" values.
  
  :So long as Islam is around, only an idiot could seriously promote such nonsense.
  
  Bigot.
  
  
  :Muslims are people who believe that freedom is a naughty word, who believe that women are no better than cattle, and who refer to the ninth century as the good old days.
  
  It's so easy to lump millions of people together. Here, I'll have a go. - Christians are people who believe that education is a naughty word, who believe that women are no better than cattle at choosing what they can do with their bodies, and who refer to the ninth century as the old Christian church.
  
  :It was bad enough when they used a newspaper cartoon as an excuse to go berserk. Now they’re outraged because of a Sudanese teddy bear. These Neanderthals actually wanted to torture and execute English school teacher Gilliam Gibbons because, at the behest of a seven-year-old in her class, she named the stuffed toy Muhammad.
  
  This is just more bigotry. With his use of "they", he is incorporating all Muslems. This would be incorrect as the Muslim Council of Britain, an umbrella group of British Muslim organizations, called the sentence "completely unjustified." with regard to Gillian Gibbons.
  
  
  
  
  
  More bigotry.
  
  :Imagine if Catholics were as psychotic as Islamists. Just having a little Jesus on his dashboard or a crèche in his front yard would be like signing his own death warrant.
  
  Ah, ignoring history again I see. What about the Catholics that brutalize pregnant teenagers (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20070504/ai_n19066970) , or the Christian fundamentalists that kill doctors here in America (http://www.cnn.com/US/9810/24/doctor.killed.02/).
  
  :So, even though I haven’t a religious bone in my body, I have every reason to be grateful I was born in a country in which it’s Christ’s birthday, and not Muhammad’s first slaying of an infidel, that’s celebrated as a national holiday.
  
  No sir, you are an ignorant, bigoted, dick that is allowed to say such tripe because you live in a secular country that has written into is constitution your right to spew bullsh-t. But, be careful. You are getting close to the line between 'freedom of speech' and inciting fear and hatred. And, should you cross that line, it is our secular laws that will put you in jail.
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  So is it Evolution or Creation

  by Punk in

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  http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5521410965822202656 take a look

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  BA, you are a little confused here. Evolution is a fact. (otherwise we wouldn't need a different flu shot every year and the HIV virus wouldn't mutate ).
  
  The start of life is a theory.
  
  steve
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  So then what exactly is the "Holy Spirit"? (the JW version)

  by VoidEater in

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  is it kinda like god's rc [radio controlled] racer?.

  is it like magnetism or electricity?.

  is it like email?.

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  It's the bullS$$t the society uses to authorize their authority. Try find a WT article about the Holy Spirit that doesn't tell you to accept your subjection.
  
  
  steve
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  Contemplating my end here

  by Junction-Guy in

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  this has by far been the best xjw forum i have ever been on, but the time is coming when i must move on to other venues.

  the net is very time consuming, and i cant keep up with every post on here, no matter how hard i try.. .

  im embarking on a new journey here in the next few months, and i just have to break myself free from the internet.. .

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  stevenyc

  You've just walked through the final door. And closed it.
  
  Congratulations, and well done.
  
  
  Enjoy your new life.
  
  
  steve