Posts by stevenyc

the watchtower society has condemned the catholic church for over 15 years because of their pedophile cover-up -- now, the watchtower society is trying to make a defense of their own pedophile cover-up by claiming that they are "no worse than any other religion"!.

statements made to the media by official watchtower society spokesmen about the jehovah's witnesses pedophile problem being "no worse than any other religion":.

christianity today, january 26th 2001:.

stevenyc

BTTT

steve

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Could You Stay Friends With Someone Who Visited Prostitutes?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

a while back, an aquaintance of mine told me that he liked to visit prostitutes.

although we weren't that close, i'd worked on and off with him over the years.

i knew his wife too and would often see her around town.. he'd told me that when he had something to celebrate, like his birthday or maybe a commercial win, he and a pal of his would do the pubs and clubs first and then go kerb crawling until they found a pair of street girls who would play the swopsy's scene.

stevenyc

Min,

I don't agree with you on this one. Most street girls are in a threatened environment. Controlled by the worst scum you could possibly imagine. If you want to see a prostitue, fine. Find someone that has chosen the profession. Street girls are pimp owned slaves.

steve

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Trouble for Richie?

by RichieRich in

jw
friends

so today, after the meeting, one of the elders from my jc walks up to me and my mother and asks if we had time to talk.

thankfully, i had to get to work, and mom wasn't feeling great.

we said today wasn't good.. so basiccally he said that he and another brother want to meet with us on wednsday night, after the tms, to "see how things are going".. so here's quandry:.

stevenyc

Richie,

Make sure that everything come from the bible. Then, tell them that you will meditate on the references from the bible. You don't have to answer right away. Take no sh!t from ANY WT publication. The whole time, you should use the 'Jehoba' world. Any time they use the word 'society' throw 'Jehoba' back at them.

Urgent scan request! Imperial Bible Dictionary!

by ithinkisee in

my wife was appalled by the misquote in the reasoning book under cross - where the society quotes the imperial bible dictionary.. more information regarding this misquote is located here:.

http://www.geocities.com/athens/parthenon/7831/cross.html.

she is not convinced though - because she does not have an actual scan of the actual page to look at.. (yes, i have already tried contacting the author of that website - to no avail.).

stevenyc

ithinkisee,

If you need more scans, let me know. I'm off to the city at 2pm and can do it for you.

steve

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What Belief or Teaching Do You Think The Watchtower Will Next Abandon?

by minimus in

jw
friends

do you believe the society will just stay on automatic pilot or do you think some "new lite" is in store for witnesses?

stevenyc

144000 will become symbolic. - Top up the controllers and give the sheep something else to look forward to when they stop believing in an iminent armagedon.

Blood will become, 'OK in emergancy' - a conscience issue

Homosexuallity - don't ask don't tell - oops, they already have that one

Child abuse - don't ask don't tell, oops, see above.

steve

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Could You Stay Friends With Someone Who Visited Prostitutes?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

a while back, an aquaintance of mine told me that he liked to visit prostitutes.

although we weren't that close, i'd worked on and off with him over the years.

i knew his wife too and would often see her around town.. he'd told me that when he had something to celebrate, like his birthday or maybe a commercial win, he and a pal of his would do the pubs and clubs first and then go kerb crawling until they found a pair of street girls who would play the swopsy's scene.

stevenyc

EM: No, you're not. The guys a sh!t for having sex with someone else, behind his wifes back.

Also, curb crawling is the lowest. I have no ethical issue with prostitution, but girls on the corner of steets are being controlled by brutal slave owners. Getting drunk to find a willing trophy is LOW.

steve

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Many many books from library on 586/87

by ithinkisee in

i have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.

i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!

many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!

stevenyc

Scholar,

With deepest respect, please post a chart of Babylonian king and their reigns with their respective dates, as so far you have convinced me that the watchtower societies date are incorrect. I've tried to make them work using unbiased materials and have always ended up with a missing twenty years.

It would be so great to see how the commen view of neo-babylonian dates are incorrect.

steve

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Deny this! Brooklyn! I dare you

by stevenyc in

i'm to angry right now to write a complete synopsis on the following article from the watchtower.

it regarding child molestation and repressed memories.

i'll put in one quote, and leave this rest for you to read at your leasure.. ps, probably worth copying this because i would be surprised if they will leave it up much longer!.

stevenyc

One thing that's interesting is, if you search for court cases involving Jehovahs Witnesses sueing the Watchtower society for mishandling child abuse cases, you notice the same retoric from their lawyers. One prominent case, detailed at silentlambs,shows that the policy of asking the accuser to confront the accused is old policy, and no longer voiced from Brooklyn.

Here's part of the testomony:http://www.silentlambs.org/wordVickiboertranscript.htm

[62] In my view much of the confusion surrounding the Matthew 18 issue stems from the fact that it does not actually apply to a situation such as this one. I accept the evidence of John Didur(the elder involved in the case) that it is not now the policy of the Jehovah's Witness to require a victim of abuse to proceed through the steps envisioned in verse 15-18 of Matthew 18, nor was that the policy in 1989. He explained that Matthew 18 applies to private disputes brween people such as disputes over financial matters, and cannot be applied to a serious sin against God's aws, such as child abuse. I understand why the defence witnesses are genuinely puzzzled as to how this could have come up in this situation. However, I am confident that Matthew 18 was mentioned specifically to the plaintiff and that she was told it applied. Further I am confident that it was after receiving this advice that she spoke to the Mott-Trilles .

If this is so, then why is it not refellected on their official site, in the section of how to deal with abuse cases. I'm no Johnnie Cochran by any means, but there must be an argument to sugest that this policy is still in use. If so the lawyers might be commiting contempt by stating the opposite.

steve