i've completely stopped taking part in any jw activities for close to a year now and will be visiting my jw family for the next couple of weeks.
they have no idea that i have become "apostate".
for all they know i am still an active jw.
it was kinda funny, friday night i went to a buddys house to drink right, and ummm, well somehow a pioneer got invited... well, i started talking about going to a strip club and then started swearing and im telling you ai scandalized the poor kid.... then i said ha ha ha, JUST KIDDING! and asked the kid if we could go on service together.... how mean is that???
That's pretty funny actually.
-ithinkisee
i'll never forget the time the circuit and district overseers told the elders that from now on the elders would be solely responsible for all judicial matters and that if anyone was going to get sued, it was not going to be the society.
at that point, the 2 overseers laughed outloud.
i knew we were going to get screwed for sure because the watchtower society was already setting us up.
IP_Sec said:
Some times I would be struck, stunned, depressed at all the people I liked around me who were just meat sacks if they didnt change before The great day of god almighty. I guess that was the main reason for being so active in the ministry.
(In my best Butthead voice)
"Huh-huh-huh-huh...... You said MEAT sack! ...Huh-huh-huh-huh"
-ithinkisee
i spent many many years peforming on the cello before becoming a witness at 18 and being encouraged to quit all my symphony associations etc which i obediently did.
i was a soloist once with a community symphony and it was a wonderful experience!
i have a recording of the concerto i performed.
I think clarinets should all be burned.
"This one time, at band camp."
i've completely stopped taking part in any jw activities for close to a year now and will be visiting my jw family for the next couple of weeks.
they have no idea that i have become "apostate".
for all they know i am still an active jw.
I'm not sure if you and your wife just dropped off the face of the earth, or if you still maintain some JW contacts where you live now, but if you haven't been around it for awhile, let me tell you, it'll be quite nauseating at first.
All you can do is have fun. Focus on how much you love your family and appreciate the time you get to spend with them ... no matter how fake ... unfortunately ... it may have to be.
On the other hand ... you might be surprised. Some people might be on the same road as you ... who knows.
-ithinkisee
it seems to me that mormons enjoy their work a lot more than jdubs... and they do it 12 hours a day.
they have to walk everywhere.
they have no social life or money.
Also, a Mormon doesn't absolutely, positively, have to go on a mission.
Jehovah's Witnesses will also tell you that you don't absolutely positively HAVE to go out in field service. It is just something you SHOULD naturally want to do out of "love".
-ithinkisee
it seems to me that mormons enjoy their work a lot more than jdubs... and they do it 12 hours a day.
they have to walk everywhere.
they have no social life or money.
At least their cult had the brains to build a University so their kids could get good educations.
-ithinkisee
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i read in more than one place that jws, mormons, and other missionary groups often fight to be the first ones into previously banned areas.. i would love to (a) hear some accounts of this, and (b) find some articles online or somewhere that documents this kind of activity.. does anyone have some?.
-ithinkisee
I read in more than one place that JWs, Mormons, and other missionary groups often fight to be the first ones into previously banned areas.
I would love to (a) hear some accounts of this, and (b) find some articles online or somewhere that documents this kind of activity.
Does anyone have some?
-ithinkisee
okay, was there really nothing resembling christianity before christ established christianity and the ideas behind that?
i mean, a lot of what the principles of christianity contain seem to be very common sense, such as loving neighbor, not stealing, don't covet neighbor's wife, etc.
do you really think the concept of christianity was so ground breaking when it did occur?
DISCLAIMER: I got this from another poster on here ... or from the web somewhere ... so I am not sure if these quotes listed below are correct. This is something I have been wanting to research for a long time. Anyone have any thoughts on these?
650 B.C.E. Pittacus writes "Do not that to your neighbor which you would receive ill from him."
585 B.C.E. Thales of Miletus writes
"Avoid doing what you would blame others for doing."
500 B.C.E. Confucius writes "Do to another what you would have them do to yourself. You need only this law. It is the foundation of all other laws."
406 B.C.E. Sextus writes
"What you wish your neighbors to be to you, be also to them."
385 B.C.E. Aristotle writes "We should conduct ourselves toward others as we would have them act towards ourselves."
365 B.C.E. Aristippus writes "Cherish reciprocal benevolence, which will make you as anxious for anothers welfare as for your own."
338 B.C.E. Isocrates writes "Act toward others as you desire them to act toward yourself".
30 C.E. Jesus quoted as saying
"Do to others as you would have them do to you."
-ithinkisee
i'll never forget the time the circuit and district overseers told the elders that from now on the elders would be solely responsible for all judicial matters and that if anyone was going to get sued, it was not going to be the society.
at that point, the 2 overseers laughed outloud.
i knew we were going to get screwed for sure because the watchtower society was already setting us up.
I posted more of mine in a thread a few months back, here:
Longtime JWs: Can you recall the path of JW doubts throughout your life?http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94334/1.ashx
ithinkisee
one of the things that bothers me is the very little or almost non-existent way the paradise earth is talked about in the new testament.
i've never heard a dub even think about that for one second.. the only occasions i can think of that the dubs use to show the new testament does in fact talk paradise earth is the scripture at matthew 5:5 (about mild tempered ones, or meek inheriting the earth), revelation 21:3,4 (about no more sickness, sorrow, suffering nor death) and jesus on the cross saying that the guy next to him would be with jesus in paradise.. none of these are overly convincing.
why didn't the apostles talk more about the paradise.
This is one of those posts that Def'd skulked away from.
-ithinkisee
